Brupak lager, with a lager yeast.

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Brupak lager, with a lager yeast.

Post by guest5234 » Sat Nov 18, 2006 9:31 pm

I fancy trying this one , but do not understand what cold fermenting means, anyone please.

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Post by Garth » Sat Nov 18, 2006 9:42 pm

I think it basically means that as the kit is supplied with true lager yeast, it needs to be fermented colder than a standard ale kit, the back of the packet of yeast or the instructions should tell you the optimum temperature, it's usually between 12'C - 18'C (whereas ale yeast would be 18'C - 22'C)

most lager yeast can ferment at the higher ale temperature but you won't get the authentic crisp, clean lager taste, more of the ale taste.

BTW I did this kit earlier in the year, I struggled to keep the fermenting temperature down below 18'C but it still managed to produce an excellent drink. I'm not a big lager fan but enjoyed this as it didn't taste like the cheap crap in cans masquerading as lager. Now is the ideal time to do a lager as the temperatures outside are dropping therefore you house will get colder.

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Post by guest5234 » Sat Nov 18, 2006 9:57 pm

Garth wrote:I think it basically means that as the kit is supplied with true lager yeast, it needs to be fermented colder than a standard ale kit, the back of the packet of yeast or the instructions should tell you the optimum temperature, it's usually between 12'C - 18'C (whereas ale yeast would be 18'C - 22'C)

most lager yeast can ferment at the higher ale temperature but you won't get the authentic crisp, clean lager taste, more of the ale taste.

BTW I did this kit earlier in the year, I struggled to keep the fermenting temperature down below 18'C but it still managed to produce an excellent drink. I'm not a big lager fan but enjoyed this as it didn't taste like the cheap crap in cans masquerading as lager. Now is the ideal time to do a lager as the temperatures outside are dropping therefore you house will get colder.


Thanks, would the garage be to cold in the winter?

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Post by Garth » Sat Nov 18, 2006 10:02 pm

it all depends on how cold it gets. the best way to check it's suitability would be to get one of those cheap digi themometers that do a min/max and you can check what is the lowest temp it drops to.

I have a feeling it may get too cold unless you have some kind of heating in there. It's now only 4.5'C here outside in Durham so an garage would not be much more than that and the yeast would likely to go dormant, or very sluggish at fermenting anything.

Possibly a spare room with the radiator turned off and the window open in this weather would probably create the right enviroment.

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Post by guest5234 » Sat Nov 18, 2006 10:07 pm

Garth wrote:it all depends on how cold it gets. the best way to check it's suitability would be to get one of those cheap digi themometers that do a min/max and you can check what is the lowest temp it drops to.

I have a feeling it may get too cold unless you have some kind of heating in there. It's now only 4.5'C here outside in Durham so an garage would not be much more than that and the yeast would likely to go dormant, or very sluggish at fermenting anything.

Possibly a spare room with the radiator turned off and the window open in this weather would probably create the right enviroment.


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Post by Garth » Sat Nov 18, 2006 10:14 pm

good luck guest 5234, it's a great kit (as are all Brupaks), I'm sure you'll enjoy it. It will probably take a bit longer to ferment and if you are bottling it should be left in the cold for quite a while while it conditions and matures.

Looking back at my beer log, I femented it in the primary for nearly three weeks in the primary, then bottled, primed with light spraymalt, and left the bottles in the cool for nearly two months before trying them, the majority of them went to my father-in-laws who I brewed it for originally. He does not drink a great deal, so were left for even longer and he was very pleased with them.

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Post by Garth » Sat Nov 18, 2006 10:39 pm

Yeah, I thought the bottom end was 12'C,

Daab, was it on here that someone said some bloke had fermented something, probably lager, at 0'C or 1'C?

is this possible?

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Post by Horden Hillbilly » Sun Nov 19, 2006 12:58 pm

I always ferment Mrs. H's lagers between November & February whether they are kits or ag, her favourite yeast is Saflager S 23, it is recommended to ferment it at 9c-15c, ideally 12c.

Here is a link for info on Saflager S 23, it is a pdf file.

http://www.fermentis.com/FO/EN/pdf/SaflagerS-23.pdf

The Brupaks lager kit is one of Mrs. H's favourites, you won't be dissapointed with it.

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Post by davidson » Mon Feb 05, 2007 5:55 pm

From this topic i gather that it is recommended to replace the yeast you get in the kits for Saflager S 23. Is this the best yeast for lager?

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Post by mysterio » Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:26 pm

I ferment my lagers at 10 C personally. It should be ok around 10 - 15 C, then matured at 0C for a month.

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