Lager help

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Simo72

Lager help

Post by Simo72 » Mon Sep 03, 2012 7:32 pm

Hi all
I have just returned to the world of brewing after a break of about 2 years. I am only a kit brewer so far but who knows in the future. I was tempted back by finding some old stock in the shed (milestone crusader) which still tasted remarkably good if not better than when tasted early,which does give credence to "patience is a virtue".
I have started with another crusader and a fruit cider for the missus. I am however tempted by doing an authentic lager since i have been given an old caravan fridge which on its lowest setting stays at a steady 12 deg C but i can only get a 10 or 15 litre jerry can in,so i was wondering whether to use a 1 tin kit but without additional fermentables or just to halve a fully made up kit and do half in fridge, half in the shed, any help gratefully received?
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Mark Simpson

cellone

Re: Lager help

Post by cellone » Mon Sep 03, 2012 8:41 pm

Hi, I've never short brewed as far as 15l but often brew to 20l with pilsener. It might work, maybe you could just use dextrose and not add any l/dme.

It is my considered opinion that you need a bigger fridge.

Simo72

Re: Lager help

Post by Simo72 » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:34 pm

cellone wrote:Hi, I've never short brewed as far as 15l but often brew to 20l with pilsener. It might work, maybe you could just use dextrose and not add any l/dme.

It is my considered opinion that you need a bigger fridge.
cheers i have my mums old fridge freezer coming in a month or so (after i persuaded her she needed a new one) so space not gonna be an issue soon,tho may still give it a go in the small one first.Do you know which kits supply actual lager yeasts so i dont have to source additional yeast?

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Re: Lager help

Post by Monkeybrew » Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:52 pm

Coopers Pilsener and European Lager both come with proper lager yeasts.

The Pilsener is much tastier IMO.
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AG#42 - Heritage Double Ale - 10.5%

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Matt12398

Re: Lager help

Post by Matt12398 » Wed Sep 05, 2012 5:16 pm

If you were to say that with a one can kit half of the fermentables are in the can and half are additional fermentables and 15 litres is about two thirds of the usual volume just use the one can and add half the additional fermentables you would with a full size brew. That gives you three quarters of the fermentables for three quarters of the brew size.

cellone

Re: Lager help

Post by cellone » Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:50 pm

Simo72 wrote:Do you know which kits supply actual lager yeasts so i dont have to source additional yeast?
I have searched in vain and waisted a lot of time and money trying to extend the list MB posted, he's bang on about the pilsener.

a small hint to kit manufacturers, LAGER YEAST FOR LAGER KITS FFS IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE :evil: [-X :bonk :roll: ](*,) ](*,) ](*,)

Simo72

Re: Lager help

Post by Simo72 » Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:31 pm

cellone wrote:
Simo72 wrote:Do you know which kits supply actual lager yeasts so i dont have to source additional yeast?
I have searched in vain and waisted a lot of time and money trying to extend the list MB posted, he's bang on about the pilsener.

a small hint to kit manufacturers, LAGER YEAST FOR LAGER KITS FFS IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE :evil: [-X :bonk :roll: ](*,) ](*,) ](*,)
Thanks cellone gonna try the coopers pilsner and brew it in a fridge i have acquired and may even split it into 2 batches one in fridge one just in the shed and see if theres any difference may still have to buy another sachet of yeast to set both off tho. Does seem obvious to put lager yeast in these kits as from what I've read they still work at higher temps but what do i know :?

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