two can stout?

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jkroland

two can stout?

Post by jkroland » Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:38 pm

Hi all i am about to brew a black rock miners stout with crushed chocolate malt im getting a 500g bag how much should i use as ive never used anything like this before. I have also just got coppers stout kit (got it cheap as it had a torn label) what would happen if i added to. As ive never done this before any input is welcome as i dont want to waste two kits thanks xo

pumblechook

Re: two can stout?

Post by pumblechook » Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:42 pm

Are these your first ever brews?

If so, I would suggest giving them a go as they are then, if they're not quite to your taste, starting to make modifications with speciality grains or different hops or other fermentables. If these are your first brews we could give you some more specific advice about how to get the best out of them.... How to brew etc.

The two can kits are pretty well balanced so you don't tend to need to monkey with them until you know what they're missing, if anything. Not sure how much you know but the chocolate malt wouldn't just be added to the FV, it would need to be steeped in a pot for a period of time to extract the goodness from it, before adding the resulting liquor to the brew.

The thread entitled Ditch's Stout Masterclass should give you some inspiration on what to do with the coopers stout... I've tried one of those and it was great.

Happy to give you further advice, but would be useful to know how much brewing you've done before, don't want to tell you how to suck eggs....

Whatever you choose to do with your kits, good luck!!!

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Re: two can stout?

Post by seymour » Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:56 pm

Hello and welcome!

That's a tough question to answer definitively, but this should help "teach you to fish":
I would strongly recommend you get familiar with your choice of brewing software, spreadsheet, online calculator, etc. Graham Wheeler's own Beer Engine is very popular around here, and of course there are other inexpensive options. The better ones have mobile versions, unit conversion, and all kinds of cool convenient add-ons.

Here are a couple free websites:
http://tastybrew.com/calculators/recipe.html
http://beercalculus.hopville.com/

Basically, you would input the style of beer you want to make, your batch size, then simply input your ingredients. The stout cans would be considered dark LME or "liquid malt extract". You'll be able to see in real time the impact various quantities of your additional steeped malts. It will output the expected colour (SRM or EBC), Original Gravity (OG), Final Gravity (FG), Alcohol percentage (ABV), bitterness (IBU), etc.

boingy

Re: two can stout?

Post by boingy » Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:01 pm

Two can stout?

How's this:

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I'll, um, I'll get me coat....

jkroland

Re: two can stout?

Post by jkroland » Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:59 pm

This is me fith brew all my other brews have turned out great and just think its time to start expermenting a little and trying to learn new things and ways to make my brews better. As the two cans i ment if i could put the coppers and the black rock stout in the same fermenting vessel what whould this do?.

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Re: two can stout?

Post by seymour » Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:59 pm

jkroland wrote:...As the two cans i ment if i could put the coppers and the black rock stout in the same fermenting vessel what whould this do?.
If you use two cans but only water for one, you'll have an approximately double-strength stout, along the lines of a Foreign Extra Stout or Russian Imperial Stout, but the calculators will give you more specifics.

shazza

Re: two can stout?

Post by shazza » Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:01 pm

Just allow enough headroom in your fermenting vessel for "the surge"-see "ditch's stout".Placing the FV in a large plastic bag prior to filling can help to contain the worst of the spillage.You will find fermentation is quite rapid as the Cooper's yeast is extremely virile.

stoofer74

Re: two can stout?

Post by stoofer74 » Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:19 pm

ive just had my first taste of my three can russian imperial stout that i bottled on dec 25th it should have been 1 x coopers stout 1 x coopers dark ale 1 x coopers lager i improvised a little 1 x brewmaker irish velvet stout 1 x geordie mild 1 x coopers lager + 1kg of demerera sugar as i type this i feel ever so slightly wasted, hic .because this is quite high gravity its supposed to improve with time,but its already lovely. +1 on the headspace i did this in two fvs roughly splitting the two quantities and then combining them in the bottling bucket after a week

Shrunken Reaper

Re: two can stout?

Post by Shrunken Reaper » Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:07 pm

stoofer74 wrote:because this is quite high gravity
Not shit dude!! How high was the OG on this monster?

stoofer74

Re: two can stout?

Post by stoofer74 » Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:37 pm

sorry mate i'm a lazy bast*r*d when it comes to brewing my hydrometer makes a lovely ornament but i did take a fg it finished at 1020 which was right according to the coopers website i got the recipe from its a bit of a beast alright its drinkable already it will be intresting to see what its like in say two months time

tteknulp

Re: two can stout?

Post by tteknulp » Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:59 pm

stoofer74 wrote:ive just had my first taste of my three can russian imperial stout

Holy Cow a 3 Can kit , i have done a good few 2 cans ,im actually supping a pint now was a 1x wheat & 1x cerveza dry hopped with 50g cascade its really nice, one of my best kits so far it finished 7.1% ,this 3 can has me thinking already ..... :)

markle

Re: two can stout?

Post by markle » Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:59 pm

stoofer74 wrote:ive just had my first taste of my three can russian imperial stout that i bottled on dec 25th it should have been 1 x coopers stout 1 x coopers dark ale 1 x coopers lager i improvised a little 1 x brewmaker irish velvet stout 1 x geordie mild 1 x coopers lager + 1kg of demerera sugar as i type this i feel ever so slightly wasted, hic .because this is quite high gravity its supposed to improve with time,but its already lovely. +1 on the headspace i did this in two fvs roughly splitting the two quantities and then combining them in the bottling bucket after a week

Hi Stoofer im looking at making a nice strong stout hopefully stash it away till xmas, i was thinking of just putting 2 coopers stout kits together with some sugar but am now considering doing similar to yours by adding 1 coopers stout 1 geordie mild and 1 youngs definitive lager, what do you reckon of that?
Also what size FV did you use? i only have the 25ltr ones, i saw on the coopers site they said to use a bigger one.

Cheers

cookoff

Re: two can stout?

Post by cookoff » Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:36 am

the hydrometer probly will just float on its side, at the OG reading !
:lol:

St. Ailbhe's Brewery

Re: two can stout?

Post by St. Ailbhe's Brewery » Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:08 pm

boingy wrote:Two can stout?

How's this:

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I'll, um, I'll get me coat....

The Pelican was originally meant to be the Gunness bird. They had a rhyme made up for him and all;

A wonderful bird is the pelican;
It's beak can hold more than his belly can.
I just wonder how the hell he can?
A wonderful bird is the pelican.

They had to drop him in favour of the toucan because of the word “Hell”.

Impress. Your friends. With that. :boff:

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