Not so good kits

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Barloch

Re: Not so good kits

Post by Barloch » Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:18 pm

HantsBrewer wrote:I've been pretty lucky so far with a wide range of kits, but I have had issues with Brupaks 'Beers of the world' before.
So far I've brewed 3 of these:

Weissbier - tasted like watered-down lager, mixed with ditch water, and I ended up tipping most of it away.
Begian tripple - This was actually pretty good. I assumed the weissbier was a one-off, so I purchased a..
Munich Dunkel - I can just about get one of these down if I brace myself, and de-sensitise my tastebuds first.

I'm going to steer clear of these kits from now on. They're bloody expensive for a single can kit too!
I havent really heard much about the brupaks, looks like there is another to steer clear of

I tried one of my Brewferm belgium abbey, after 4 weeks it was very nice, will leave a couple of more months to really let it settle, but looking good, pity its only 9l brew, might buy 2 and double it up next time, made with 670g of golden syrup, turned out weel

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Re: Not so good kits

Post by twentyfootwilf » Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:45 pm

I've done a brupaks beers of the world Irish stout and it is very good. However, I've got a Coopers original series stout in the cupboard on the to do list and I'm expecting great things of it :D So, back to the original post kits I wont be doing again are Geordie Yorkshire Bitter (in fact I wont be doing any Geordie kit after this one), any John Bull kits, I've been put off these for life as my dad used to make John Bull lager and it was sh*te, now this was probably because he used the old white table sugar, but I just can't bring myself to try them.

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Re: Not so good kits

Post by Gosbeck » Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:53 pm

Barloch wrote:
Gosbeck wrote:The Brewbuddy bitter is very disappointing, although it can be much improved with the addition of some hop tea.
How is the nog, just bottled 40 pints, quite looking forward to it!
The Nog is a great pint with some lovely roasted malt flavours. I tend to brew a kit or two in the spring, around April time, bottle it and then leave it for the autumn/winter. It's at its best if left for 8-12 weeks before drinking.

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Re: Not so good kits

Post by Pinto » Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:44 pm

Gosbeck wrote:The Brewbuddy bitter is very disappointing, although it can be much improved with the addition of some hop tea.
One of the first kits I ever brewed :) I still have a litre or two of it left and tbh, every one is better than the last so at 9 months, its quite respectable as quaffing diesel, even unmodified. Looking forwards to putting the last one away around xmas this year.
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Re: Not so good kits

Post by wxmexile » Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:43 pm

Kits i won't be doing again are; Burton bridge summer ale, coopers draught, coopers canadian blonde, St.Peters Golden ale - they all were just a let down to be honest - esp the St.Peters, it was so bitter it was ridiculous (still drank it all mind)

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Re: Not so good kits

Post by Cully » Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:08 am

Coopers lager ( Euro) - looked fantastic and mouthfeel was excellent - just didnt taste of anything at all.
Coopers Ausie pale ale - cleared really well but feels "thin" and though bitter has no real hop flavour at all. ( brewed to 20l as well)

Dissapointed in Coopers so far, have a couple of their kits still to do from the Tesco sell off. Stout next, of which I am also expecting great things.
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Re: Not so good kits

Post by Monkeybrew » Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:25 pm

Sorry Coopers, but English Bitter has got to be the biggest let down for me. It was brewed to 23L with 1kg of light DME and even an EKG dry hop failed to breathe any life into it!
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Conditioning:
AG#41 - Vienna Lager - 5.6%
AG#42 - Heritage Double Ale - 10.5%

On Tap:
AG#44 - Harvest ESB - 5.4%
AG#45 - Amarillo Gold APA - 5.2%

Barloch

Re: Not so good kits

Post by Barloch » Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:46 pm

i have 3 coopers kits left. the euro is ok after a long period of conditioning.

the real ale and bitter i think i may have to dabble with. plastic 2l bottles forthem, not worthy of glass O:-)

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Re: Not so good kits

Post by sbond10 » Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:02 pm

Coopers cevenza absolutely awful no flavour nothing like beer anyhow.
Best so far is youngs harvest bitter with 1kg of DME tastes nice. Got some milestone diner and blitzed conditioning ATM opened a bottle the other day and didn't taste of much bar apples but it's only been conditioning for 3 weeks so hopefully it will get better....

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Re: Not so good kits

Post by St. Ailbhe's Brewery » Thu Sep 06, 2012 11:55 am

Barloch wrote:i have 3 coopers kits left. the euro is ok after a long period of conditioning.

the real ale and bitter i think i may have to dabble with. plastic 2l bottles forthem, not worthy of glass O:-)


I did the Real Ale once, and it only came right after a LONG time conditioning, I'm talking 6 months plus.

Barloch

Re: Not so good kits

Post by Barloch » Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:36 pm

Cully wrote:Coopers lager ( Euro) - looked fantastic and mouthfeel was excellent - just didnt taste of anything at all.
Coopers Ausie pale ale - cleared really well but feels "thin" and though bitter has no real hop flavour at all. ( brewed to 20l as well)

Dissapointed in Coopers so far, have a couple of their kits still to do from the Tesco sell off. Stout next, of which I am also expecting great things.
This ^^^^

So many people on here have sworn by them, i find them poor, each to their own and all that, but for an extra couple of quid, you can buy a quality kit and no need for extra fermentables

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Re: Not so good kits

Post by cwrw gwent » Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:26 pm

Coopers English Bitter/Geordie Lager/Youngs Definitive Bitter/Coopers Euro and Pilsener Lagers/Blackrock NZ Bitter.

Actually, the Blackrock wasn't too bad if you liked a sweetish, rich, dark pint - it just wasn't my kind of ale.

Can anyone remember the awful Mighty Mo kits - about one third the size of a normal kit but you added a shedload of sugar.

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Re: Not so good kits

Post by AnthonyUK » Fri Sep 07, 2012 7:37 am

I wasn't that impressed with the Coopers English bitter early on but after a good few months in the bottle it is pretty good.
With any 'one can' kit the quality of the extra fermentables will have the biggest impact on the final result.

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Re: Not so good kits

Post by Monkeybrew » Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:00 am

AnthonyUK wrote:I wasn't that impressed with the Coopers English bitter early on but after a good few months in the bottle it is pretty good.
With any 'one can' kit the quality of the extra fermentables will have the biggest impact on the final result.
I have kept 1 bottle of Coopers EB back in my maturing crate, so maybe I'll give it a taste over the weekend as it was bottled last November. :idea:
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Conditioning:
AG#41 - Vienna Lager - 5.6%
AG#42 - Heritage Double Ale - 10.5%

On Tap:
AG#44 - Harvest ESB - 5.4%
AG#45 - Amarillo Gold APA - 5.2%

Barloch

Re: Not so good kits

Post by Barloch » Fri Sep 07, 2012 12:31 pm

AnthonyUK wrote:I wasn't that impressed with the Coopers English bitter early on but after a good few months in the bottle it is pretty good.
With any 'one can' kit the quality of the extra fermentables will have the biggest impact on the final result.
I thought the same with the euro but so far that has been the exception, i still have this to do, will be doing with 1kg of BKE, 250g of muscavado sugar and might add a touch of honey in there for good measure :twisted:

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