FV & ambient temps

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Re: FV & ambient temps

Post by seymour » Wed Dec 03, 2014 4:08 pm

surfer69 wrote:...Gonna drill a hole in the rubber bung and feeed cable through there & drop em straight into the FV & try it that way...
Do you ferment in glass carboys, plugging the tight-necked hole with a rubber bung? If so, that's the confusion. Most fish tank heaters will not fit through that hole.

Ditch and others (myself included whenever I intend to use a fishtank heater) ferment in plastic buckets, so there's no restrictive opening. Ditch is right, of course, there is no need to worry about a perfect seal or pressurized air-lock during primary fermentation. In fact, there are flavour advantages to open fermentation if you can get away with it. There is so much CO2 continuously blasting outward during the first most active days, that nothing else has a chance to blow in and infect your batch. Once fermentation slows-down, it's a good idea to seal it up, the heater is less necessary at that point anyway, cold-conditioning becomes a good thing and will clean-up most undesireable esters and phenols over time. None of that is a concern for Ditch because he will have already drunk it up and brewed three more batches in the meantime! :)

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Re: FV & ambient temps

Post by smileysaint » Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:04 pm

Fish tank heater in a water bath with an stc1000.

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Re: FV & ambient temps

Post by surfer69 » Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:16 pm

Nope, brew in plastic buckets. Just received my heaters and doing some testing.
I'm trying to source some min max waterproof temp gauges to monitor the test water and then I'm gonna dive in and brew Ditches stout in the spare shower !

After reading 103 pages i think it would be rude not to.

SmileySaint Why do you use a STC1000 with a fishtank heater ? Is it more accurate than the temp gauge on the heater ?

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Post by BenB » Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:21 pm

Yes- a bucket in a bucket with a fish tank heater and water in between to make a water jacket could do the trick quite nicely and give nice constant temps (convection currents permitting) particularly if the bottom of the inner bucket was lifted off the bottom of the outer bucket ban marie style to allow some hot water underneath.

Then again it's pretty quick to knock up an insulated MDF box with a heater (light bulb or 1 foot tube heater) underneath with an STC. The trouble is then it's tempting to add a freezer to cool in summer and then if you're going to build all that to take a single FV you may as well make it big enough to take two FVs and then..........

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Re: FV & ambient temps

Post by Ditch » Thu Dec 04, 2014 2:29 pm

surfer69 wrote:I'm gonna dive in and brew Ditches stout in the spare shower.
That's the absolutely ideal place to do it, mate. I use my own shower stall for all my washing out of FV's and BK's. I fitted a short length of hose pipe to the cold supply too. It's great; I just hose the crap out of anything in the shower stall.

Regards anything else? Just know that what ever I may preach, I'm well practised in. My theories stay with me until I've road tested them. Only then will I suggest them, on my thread or elsewhere :wink:

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Re: FV & ambient temps

Post by surfer69 » Thu Dec 04, 2014 4:19 pm

Ditch, Do you clean & sanitise the Jerry can or is it only used for "clean" tapwater therefore not necessary ?

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Re: FV & ambient temps

Post by cwrw gwent » Thu Dec 04, 2014 4:46 pm

I've converted the lower part of my airing cupboard into an insulated sealed cupboard just large enough for a fermentation vessel - and a min/max thermometer so I can keep an eye on the temperature. The boiler was removed some time ago when we had a combi installed in the garage. Temperatures typically range from 18 to 22C so it's perfect.

It's important not to leave your fermenting ale in a place where the temperature is likely to fluctuate or where there may be a draught eg a conservatory. Try wrapping a duvet or sleeeping bag around your fermentation bin to maintain a reasonably constant temperature or place it in a large cardboard box or tea chest.

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Re: FV & ambient temps

Post by Ditch » Thu Dec 04, 2014 6:14 pm

surfer69 wrote:Ditch, Do you clean & sanitise the Jerry can or is it only used for "clean" tapwater therefore not necessary ?
I would have thoroughly 'Cleaned' it, with caustic soda crystals and boiling water, the day I brought it home.

Cup of crystals in a litre of boiling water. Lid on and shake it about. That's to wash off the grease of factory new plastic. There after, I'd have rinsed the f**k out of it.

After that? Good to go. Bung half a Crushie in it. Hose the water in. Lug it across the room and add to the FV, containing the malts.

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Re: FV & ambient temps

Post by surfer69 » Fri Dec 05, 2014 11:57 am

I had a feeling you were going to say that Ditch. Thanks for clearing it up.
I like the simple no nonsense approach.

Cheapo heaters working well so far....... just waiting for beer & Spray Malt to arrive...

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