Fresh wort beer kits - The Malt Miller

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Re: Fresh wort beer kits - The Malt Miller

Post by DerbyshireNick » Wed May 20, 2015 1:36 pm

To be fair I am at a total loss as to who the target audience is with these. Anyone who uses MM is an extract brewer at least. I can only see this competing with kits (or at least trying to) and thats not MMs audience. I just feel like if you have someone who is happy brewing with kits they are not the kind of people who would care about the different this wort would make to them.

Having said all that, while I dont get who this is for, I am certainly not the target audience (I had to really push myself to order a clone kit as I like to think of the brew as 100% mine) so my opinion isnt worth much :mrgreen:

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Re: Fresh wort beer kits - The Malt Miller

Post by Aleman » Wed May 20, 2015 1:42 pm

aamcle wrote:If so what is the difference between this and a top of the range kit? I'm thinking about the quality of the final brew rather than the size of the container n so on.
It would give a kit brewer the opportunity to brew a proper all grain wort that has not gone through the vacuum evaporation process. . . . Plus the vast majority of kits are made with blends of concentrated extracts, and then bittering extracts are added . . . In other words The hops don't get boiled with the extract and then concentrated.

I've made beer with a Barons All wort kit (8.5L of wort . . . so some slight concentration) and it's actually damn good, there were two issues . . . Colour of wort, was darker than the style . . . it's flaming expensive, but then it came from Canada. In blind tests people couldn't tell it was a kit.

The Barons Kits are a combination of brewing a concentrated wort (So brew to a gravity of 1.080 instead of 1.040), and then vacuum evaporation to condense it further . . .this is where I think the darkening comes from. The wort is still in liquid form when you get it, rather than that semi solid state that most kits arrive in.

As I've said earlier it's an idea I had several years ago and did talk to Rob about it, there was quite a few kit brewers who were interested in the concept. Yeah it's not going to appeal to those kit brewers who are brewing for cost, and are happy with cheap wilkos Kits or Tescos offers, but those who are interested in quality and perhaps thinking about making the jump to All Grain, and want to see what the difference is.

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Re: Fresh wort beer kits - The Malt Miller

Post by sbond10 » Wed May 20, 2015 3:41 pm

aamcle wrote:This sound great BUT its expensive and there is postage on top.

If I understand it correctly the hop additions have been made and all you need to do is ferment it, is this correct?

If so what is the difference between this and a top of the range kit? I'm thinking about the quality of the final brew rather than the size of the container n so on.

I'd like to try one but Im more interested in Rob increasing the number of AG kits he sells.

He is increasing the ag kits I believe


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Re: Fresh wort beer kits - The Malt Miller

Post by aamcle » Wed May 20, 2015 3:49 pm

It seems to £7 or so more than a good kit plus the postage will be a bit more. Is it a tenner better that's the question?

Due to a brewday disaster I'm out of brew [LOUDLY CRYING FACE] and need some quick, I've done a Coopers Stout to pad things out but one of these wort thingies would have been better.

Many be they should be in a section - "In Emergency Click Here"


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Post by beerlover1983 » Wed May 20, 2015 7:37 pm

aamcle wrote:This sound great BUT its expensive and there is postage on top.

If I understand it correctly the hop additions have been made and all you need to do is ferment it, is this correct?

If so what is the difference between this and a top of the range kit? I'm thinking about the quality of the final brew rather than the size of the container n so on.

I'd like to try one but Im more interested in Rob increasing the number of AG kits he sells.


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This will beat any top of the range kit hands down .We all know kits have that kit taste unless hopped or aged for a long time.
This will be produced by a commercial brewery. So your getting their quality wort and you just ferment.

I would wager no kit off the shelf will match the quality of these.

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Fresh wort beer kits - The Malt Miller

Post by f00b4r » Wed May 20, 2015 7:57 pm

People are talking about this being expensive but for someone with little to no kit they hopefully get to create a top end beer with little to no outlay if they can borrow a capper or buy/reuse pet bottles. I wonder how many people Rob will pull into AG being with this.
Even getting a basic AG starting set means being a number of brews before getting cheaper than this (and that assumes the person doesn't start getting the itch and upgrading).
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Re: Fresh wort beer kits - The Malt Miller

Post by Aleman » Thu May 21, 2015 7:27 pm

I'm thinking of buying one and making it up, I think it will be superb.

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Re: Fresh wort beer kits - The Malt Miller

Post by aamcle » Thu May 21, 2015 9:10 pm

I'll be after one when poor planning and disaster's overwhelm my beer supply again!


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Re: Fresh wort beer kits - The Malt Miller

Post by micmacmoc » Fri May 22, 2015 12:15 pm

Next time I order a bag of malt I'm going for one, just to try it. If its good its an easy brewday, dry hop it too probably.

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Re: Fresh wort beer kits - The Malt Miller

Post by DerbyshireNick » Fri May 22, 2015 1:43 pm

Have to admit I am interested to ferment someone elses wort out of curiosity. To see if some of the "signatures" I find in my beer come from the mash/boil or the fermentation. I need to see prices etc first though.

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Re: Fresh wort beer kits - The Malt Miller

Post by YeastFace Brew Co. » Fri May 22, 2015 11:53 pm

It's a bit paint by numbers. Where is the fun/stress and involvement?

Saying that, I'll probably try one.

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Re: Fresh wort beer kits - The Malt Miller

Post by beerlover1983 » Sat Jun 13, 2015 1:00 pm

Waiting for this to carb up and then some tasting smelling good when bottling/kegging

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Re: Fresh wort beer kits - The Malt Miller

Post by Dave S » Sat Jun 13, 2015 3:08 pm

Where abouts on MM's site are these? I can't find them at all.
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Re: Fresh wort beer kits - The Malt Miller

Post by sbond10 » Sat Jun 13, 2015 3:14 pm

Dave S wrote:Where abouts on MM's site are these? I can't find them at all.

I'm guessing a few got samples to try

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Re: Fresh wort beer kits - The Malt Miller

Post by Dave S » Sat Jun 13, 2015 3:17 pm

sbond10 wrote:
Dave S wrote:Where abouts on MM's site are these? I can't find them at all.

I'm guessing a few got samples to try
Ah, could be
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