Leave alone or Ponce About?.....Neebie Yeast bite question

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Leave alone or Ponce About?.....Neebie Yeast bite question

Post by whiteshadow » Fri Feb 09, 2007 9:18 pm

When I can came to rack(?) my brew, after I transferred it to a king keg (top tap), I thought I better check the gravity (1022).

I realised via this forum that it was stuck and after taking on board the various advice, I decided that the easier option was to fling in some more rehydrated yeast and see what happens!.......Nothing did.

So my question is this, as I'm prepared to give it a few weeks and then drink it should I:-

a) Move it somewhere cooler and leave well alone
b) Transfer to a sterilised bucket and back to remove sediment/dead yeast

if I do A would I get yeast bite, and what is it anyway??

At the mo the brew smells and tastes like beer, but with a bit of tart aftertaste.......How might this change?

tubby_shaw

Post by tubby_shaw » Fri Feb 09, 2007 9:41 pm

IMO I would leave it where it is for another week, it may be that the yeast is still working slowly although unlikely.
Then move it into the cool for another two weeks if you can resist temptation :lol:
During this time the beer will "mature" and the bitterness will tone down :D
Once the beer is barrelled it is best not to disturb due to the increased chance of infection :(
Yeast bite is a strange term, but if the yeast slurry is clean then you will have drunk the beer before the yeast decomposes and gives off flavours 8)

mysterio

Post by mysterio » Fri Feb 09, 2007 10:04 pm

Yeah, i'm not too sure about this term 'yeast bite'. Immature beer has a bit of a bite (when the yeast is in suspension) and some yeasts give a bit of a sharp acidic aftertaste, but I don't think you do any harm leaving the beer on the yeast for a few weeks. The only danger is the yeast autolysing (sp?), which basically means it's decomposing and gives the beer a noticeably awful flavour. This only happens after a fairly long time (months), I gather.

Your beer is stuck, though... how long have you given the new yeast to work? And what kind of yeast did you pitch? It's going to be a bit cloying sweet at that gravity.

The Cardinal

Post by The Cardinal » Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:20 am

I never realised yeast would decompose. Most of my bottles have a bit of sediment at the bottom - how long will a bottle conditioned ale keep for before it goes off? The longest I've ever been able to resist them is about 3 months, and at that point it tasted a lot better than it did after 3 weeks. Is there a recommended 'best before date'?

whiteshadow

Post by whiteshadow » Sat Feb 10, 2007 9:03 am

I gave the new yeast about a week. It was a new packet from a decent HB shop, but can't remember the name.

I made sure that it was rehyrated and fed with a bit of the wort before chucking it in.......but nothing.

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Post by Garth » Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:34 am

The Cardinal wrote:I never realised yeast would decompose. Most of my bottles have a bit of sediment at the bottom - how long will a bottle conditioned ale keep for before it goes off? The longest I've ever been able to resist them is about 3 months, and at that point it tasted a lot better than it did after 3 weeks. Is there a recommended 'best before date'?
IIRC the stronger the beer, the longer you can can be kept, eg barley wines, strong stouts and heavily hopped IPAs. How strict your sterilising regime was with your equipment and bottles will also have some bearing on how long they will last. I reckon a reasonable strength beer will be nice at about six months, it should have dropped perfectly clear and the hop flavour will have mellowed and developed.

3 months is about my maximum also, and that's because I forgot about them and they did taste the best of the batch by far.

whiteshadow

Post by whiteshadow » Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:10 am

I realise this is probably a stupid question.....what's IIRC?

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Post by bitter_dave » Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:34 am

whiteshadow wrote:I realise this is probably a stupid question.....what's IIRC?
'If I recall correctly' :wink:

mysterio

Post by mysterio » Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:55 pm

The Cardinal wrote:I never realised yeast would decompose. Most of my bottles have a bit of sediment at the bottom - how long will a bottle conditioned ale keep for before it goes off? The longest I've ever been able to resist them is about 3 months, and at that point it tasted a lot better than it did after 3 weeks. Is there a recommended 'best before date'?
It doesn't seem to happen in the bottle. The other day I found a bottle of porter under my bed that I made last year an it tasted great. Beer lasts for quite a while in the bottle...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jh ... beer09.xml

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Post by Garth » Sat Feb 10, 2007 2:02 pm

mysterio wrote:The other day I found a bottle of porter under my bed that I made last year an it tasted great. Beer lasts for quite a while in the bottle...
it's amazing where they crop up when you've squirrelled them away, but a nice surprise

The Cardinal

Post by The Cardinal » Sat Feb 10, 2007 5:15 pm

Looking at that article it doesn't seem i've got any worries about my beer going off then! Might even lay a few down for future generations :!:

Thanks! :wink:

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