Craig's Coopers Bitter

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NOTCraigTube

Craig's Coopers Bitter

Post by NOTCraigTube » Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:57 am

Hi there, Craig here

I'm still thinking on what recipe to do, Can i have some tips?

Ingredience:
1 tin of Coopers English Bitter
A bag of Crystal malt
A packet of east kent goldings (whole hops)
A bag of Fuggles hop pellets
1 kilo of Light spray dried malt extract
Kit yeast



1, measure out 100g of cyrstal malt

2, Add it to a muslin bag and put it in my big cooking pot and start it off on a 30 minute simmer @ 65 degree's C in 4 litres of water

3, After 20 minutes add 20 grams of Fuggles and 20 grams of EKG hops in a muslin bag to the pot, simmer for 10 minutes

4, After 10 minutes, I put the flame out and remove the sac of grains and let it drip, then gently squeeze the wort out of the grains. The hops continue to sit in the wort for another 10 minutes, and then I give them a squeeze too.

5, Add the English Bitter to the FV and swill the can out with boiling water and give it a bit of a stir to get it desolving.

6, cool the wort in the sink with the cold tap

7, Then add it to the fermenter.Add 5 litres of cold water and then stir in 1 kg of light DME


Take a sample, Pitch yeast


How does that sound? any suggestions on whether and what to dry hop with?

NOTCraigTube

Re: Craig's Coopers Bitter

Post by NOTCraigTube » Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:09 am

Cancel the crystal malt, im gonna use maris otter

NOTCraigTube

Re: Craig's Coopers Bitter

Post by NOTCraigTube » Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:22 am

Thanks for all of the help everybody :/

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Re: Craig's Coopers Bitter

Post by Dabooka » Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:50 pm

CraigTube wrote:Thanks for all of the help everybody :/
I'm new to this homebrew malarkey so I couldn’t possibly comment on your recipe. However, the one thing I've learned is patience is essential; that being during the fermentation / conditioning and also in waiting for people to log on and reply to your post!

Give people a chance to finish work, get home, etc and I'm sure you'll get some suggestions. :D
FV1 - Cooper's English Bitter
FV2 - Patiently waiting... (Stout à la Ditch planned!)
Keg 1 - Patiently waiting...

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Re: Craig's Coopers Bitter

Post by Shadowknight » Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:06 pm

CraigTube wrote:Thanks for all of the help everybody :/
Your welcome.
Needs more Cowbell.

Spud395

Re: Craig's Coopers Bitter

Post by Spud395 » Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:15 pm

Like the man said, patience grasshopper.
Marris otter will need to be mashed.
EKG works well as a dry hop in a bitter, imo!

NOTCraigTube

Re: Craig's Coopers Bitter

Post by NOTCraigTube » Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:53 pm

Spud395 wrote:Like the man said, patience grasshopper.
Marris otter will need to be mashed.
EKG works well as a dry hop in a bitter, imo!

I'm using standard crushed pale malt now, and im going to dry hop with ekg as well as using it in the wort

barl_fire

Re: Craig's Coopers Bitter

Post by barl_fire » Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:31 pm

CraigTube wrote:
Spud395 wrote:Like the man said, patience grasshopper.
Marris otter will need to be mashed.
EKG works well as a dry hop in a bitter, imo!

I'm using standard crushed pale malt now, and im going to dry hop with ekg as well as using it in the wort
The pale malt will also need mashing. tbh I'd stick with the crystal rather than the pale as it looks like a traditional English bitter recipe with those hops and the crystal, and I'm not really sure if 100g of pale added to a kit is gonna bring much to the brew anyway, whereas 100-200g crystal in my opinion is very much in keeping with that sort of brew. Furthermore the crystal doesn't need mashing just steeping.

NOTCraigTube

Re: Craig's Coopers Bitter

Post by NOTCraigTube » Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:50 pm

barl_fire wrote:
CraigTube wrote:
Spud395 wrote:Like the man said, patience grasshopper.
Marris otter will need to be mashed.
EKG works well as a dry hop in a bitter, imo!

I'm using standard crushed pale malt now, and im going to dry hop with ekg as well as using it in the wort
The pale malt will also need mashing. tbh I'd stick with the crystal rather than the pale as it looks like a traditional English bitter recipe with those hops and the crystal, and I'm not really sure if 100g of pale added to a kit is gonna bring much to the brew anyway, whereas 100-200g crystal in my opinion is very much in keeping with that sort of brew. Furthermore the crystal doesn't need mashing just steeping.

If i steep and dont mash?

Spud395

Re: Craig's Coopers Bitter

Post by Spud395 » Thu Jul 14, 2011 6:27 pm

You wont convert the sugars in the pale with out mashing, look up mini mash techinques.
Crystal is all ready converted and the steeping will extract the sugars.
The sugars you get from the crystal are not as fermentable as what you'll get from the pale (when mashed) This will help with body as well as bringing the nuttyness that you get in a bitter, which comes from crystal.
The crystal would be more suitable, but it's your beer, do as you wish!

NOTCraigTube

Re: Craig's Coopers Bitter

Post by NOTCraigTube » Thu Jul 14, 2011 6:36 pm

Spud395 wrote:You wont convert the sugars in the pale with out mashing, look up mini mash techinques.
Crystal is all ready converted and the steeping will extract the sugars.
The sugars you get from the crystal are not as fermentable as what you'll get from the pale (when mashed) This will help with body as well as bringing the nuttyness that you get in a bitter, which comes from crystal.
The crystal would be more suitable, but it's your beer, do as you wish!

You didnt answer my question, what happens if i steep the pale and dont mash it?

Spud395

Re: Craig's Coopers Bitter

Post by Spud395 » Thu Jul 14, 2011 6:41 pm

CraigTube wrote:
Spud395 wrote:You wont convert the sugars in the pale with out mashing, look up mini mash techinques.
Crystal is all ready converted and the steeping will extract the sugars.
The sugars you get from the crystal are not as fermentable as what you'll get from the pale (when mashed) This will help with body as well as bringing the nuttyness that you get in a bitter, which comes from crystal.
The crystal would be more suitable, but it's your beer, do as you wish!

You didnt answer my question, what happens if i steep the pale and dont mash it?
Read the 1st line in my post.
As I said feel free to do what you want, but why ask for advise?

Geezah

Re: Craig's Coopers Bitter

Post by Geezah » Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:09 pm

CraigTube wrote: You didnt answer my question, what happens if i steep the pale and dont mash it?
This thread oozes friday night stella attitude. :(

Chill, read, listen and learn.

p.s I love the way you used my guide ;-)

NOTCraigTube

Re: Craig's Coopers Bitter

Post by NOTCraigTube » Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:16 pm

Spud395 wrote:
CraigTube wrote:
Spud395 wrote:You wont convert the sugars in the pale with out mashing, look up mini mash techinques.
Crystal is all ready converted and the steeping will extract the sugars.
The sugars you get from the crystal are not as fermentable as what you'll get from the pale (when mashed) This will help with body as well as bringing the nuttyness that you get in a bitter, which comes from crystal.
The crystal would be more suitable, but it's your beer, do as you wish!

You didnt answer my question, what happens if i steep the pale and dont mash it?
Read the 1st line in my post.
As I said feel free to do what you want, but why ask for advise?

So not converting the sugars means what?


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