would this work for a decent Imperial stout?

[Deebee]

Guys, as a rule i am an Ag brewer, started with kits but the selection here in Norway was so poor i went to AG.

Either way i was looking at this frum and came across the three kit Coopers RIS thread and found it most amusing.

Last time i brewed a RIS was all grain and although it was fantastic it did take a massive amount of malt.. so i was thinking:9

I can get hold of wherry headcracker ( that makes 13 l og 7%) and coopers stout.

Does anyone have any idea how this might be if i mixed them together and added say 1km brew enhancer and or some normal sugar?

Secondly i guess in order to bitter it somewhat i would also need to make a hope tea of say 30 grams target or some other high alpha hops for a 30 minute boil before adding to the kit.

Despite my best efforts i have still never achieved the brain mass monster vulcanic eruption of a fermentation i would so dearly love to see:)

Can anyone hav a crack at working out how these two kits together would be( or should i add two coopers stout kits to the head cracker etc?

thanks in advance.

[Deebee]

bump please gents.

[Ditch]

Despite my best efforts i have still never achieved the brain mass monster vulcanic eruption of a fermentation i would so dearly love to see

I really wouldn't know about the rest of it, Dave. But, if ye working with Coopers stout kits? I can't imagine what ye not doing, to fail to see the display

Lower fermentation temperatures, maybe?

[Deebee]

Despite my best efforts i have still never achieved the brain mass monster vulcanic eruption of a fermentation i would so dearly love to see

I really wouldn't know about the rest of it, Dave. But, if ye working with Coopers stout kits? I can't imagine what ye not doing, to fail to see the display

Lower fermentation temperatures, maybe?

i used to work with muntons mate but moved to Ag a few years back. The last RIS i mad was great but there was a lot of malt and in that essence a lot of waste due to only being one beer.
fermentation in a fridge at 20 should be fine. i just need to know if a headcracker and a stout would do the job with some suggar etc.

[bazookajoe]

For the Coopers RIS, you could think of it in terms of 3 tins + 1kg dextrose made up to 20l being 1 part fermentable to 5 parts water. I also think of the Coopers version having 3 levels of flavour - light from the lager, medium to dark from the dark ale, and dark from the stout all melding together to give a compendium of flavours across the spectrum.

For the Headcracker (2 tins) and Coopers Stout (1 tin) you'd just need to decide if and how much extra fermentables and water would make up similar ratios to get the required outcome of alcohol percentage? If the Headcracker is 7% at 13l maybe still add the extra 1kg of enhancer or dextrose and brew to 17l? For flavour Headcracker description I've read seam quite good so instead of the lager/dark ale combo you'll have the "full-bodied plummy flavour with a palatably bitter edge. Continues to a mature maple finish to the end of the glass". Sounds well suited especially as the flavours mature.

I didn't add any extra hops or owt for the Coopers RIS, as the kits are already hopped and as it's all concentrated into 20l any extra hopping I reckon would have over-bittered it. Might be the same for your headcracker and Coopers stout.

Just go for it, you can always make it again.

And I'd recommend 300ml bottles if you can get them - I used 500ml and it's a hard cycle to work the next morning after one of those of an evening. I've only got 2 bottles left, must be over 2.5 years old now.

[Deebee]

Hi.

Yes am thinking that the headcracker and a coopers stout with say 1.5 kilo brew enhancer. or a kilo brew enhancer and some light brown sugar or dark invert treacle/sirup.

The AG Ris i did was great though but there are efficiency problems with high ABV bres due to the sparge. I might actually do two straight after each other and compare.....

[bazookajoe]

The other good thing the coopers one has going for it is the 3 packs of coopers yeast that get pitched, which probably helps it along greatly.