Black/dark IPA

[dasbootfish]

Has anybody attempted modifying a kit to recreate a dark ipa? Tesco sell a bottle called revisionist which is dry hopped with chinook and citra. Wouldn't mind getting something similar to this as it's a bloody good sup.
I was thinking of coopers dark or geordie mild as the base. Any thoughts or ideas? Or am I aiming to high for only my 5th brew?

[Mr. Dripping]

A dark beer or a mild is the wrong starting point for a black IPA.
Start with an IPA kit.....American hopped if they are available (it's a long time since I did kits). If not then something with a fairly neutral hop character.....Coopers IPA springs to mind.
Dry hop after fermentation is complete with an ounce of each hop.....pellets are best.
The colour can be adjusted by using an additive called Sinamar or you could steep some Carafa 3. Both of these will add colour without the roast/burnt flavour you normally get and which would be totally out of place in an IPA.
Good luck.

[Andy]

Has anybody attempted modifying a kit to recreate a dark ipa? Tesco sell a bottle called revisionist which is dry hopped with chinook and citra. Wouldn't mind getting something similar to this as it's a bloody good sup.
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Had one of these at the w/d ans yes, it's very good. Was £1.25 a bottle also.

Brewed by Wychwood I believe.


Some info here

The revisionist Dark IPA is brewed with English Pale, Crystal and Chocolate malts resulting in a deep chestnut, ruby colour with a toffee, biscuit, chocolate flavour not normally found in an IPA but the dryness and crisp pallet is in parallel with the original style.

Staying true to style, traditional English grown Fuggles and Goldings high hopping in the copper boil impart an earthy, herbal bitterness as expected from an IPA. Continental hop varieties fashionable amongst modern blonde ales are added in two separate additions. Post boil New Zealand Pacific Gem and Wakatu give a sense of floral, citrus and almost blackberry background whilst dry hopping in the fermentation vessel with American Citra and Chinook offer an aroma experience of fresh tropical fruit, lime citrus with a subtle spiced pine note.

Quite a hop mix!

[seymour]

A dark beer or a mild is the wrong starting point for a black IPA.
Start with an IPA kit.....American hopped if they are available (it's a long time since I did kits). If not then something with a fairly neutral hop character.....Coopers IPA springs to mind.
Dry hop after fermentation is complete with an ounce of each hop.....pellets are best.
The colour can be adjusted by using an additive called Sinamar or you could steep some Carafa 3. Both of these will add colour without the roast/burnt flavour you normally get and which would be totally out of place in an IPA.
Good luck.

That's one popular interpretation of Black IPA, and there are some great-tasting beers made that way. But I personally believe a so-called Black IPA (or Cascadian Dark Ale, or India Porter, or Hoppy Brown Ale, or American Stout, or whatever...) can have lots of malt complexity and be very hoppy. I like bready/toasty/roasty aspects in beer, and I sometimes like pungent over-the-top New World hops, so I really don't see why those two things must be mutually exclusive.

That's certainly the philosophy behind my popular recipes: Seymour Simcoe Mild, Seymour Citra Dark, Seymour American Stout, Seymour Oatmeal Molasses India Porter, etc.

I actually think a dark ale, mild, brown ale, porter or stout kit would be delicious with tons of late hop additions, maybe lots of dry-hops too. It's certainly worth trying to decide for yourself...

[gibbiem]

viewtopic.php?t=69060 just brewed today. Adding some simcoe to dry hop too as needs using. Its a bit of a different grain bill, not sure you'll get something like that in a kit but as you can see, lots of late hops! Can't wait to drink this