Which yeast for TC?

[Truffle Shuffle]

Well my lovely tc has now gone it was just a small batch and was my first ever brew of any kind, but I really liked it. it was dry and sharp and i made it with wilkos cheapo wine yeast.

I was gonna try something different for a 23l batch and wondered if a different yeast would make it a bit fruitier/appley?

I have 3 yeasts to hand to pick from:
Gervin GV2 'robust wine yeast'
Safale us05 'dry ale yeast'
GV12 'ale yeast'

Does anyone have any experience with these yeasts and tc? And what were the results?

I intend to bottle and will start drinking it when carbonated as the last lot was lovely.

Any advice would be much appreciated

[Pinto]

All three of them will work well - although the Ale yeasts tend to finish a little sweeter whereas the wine yeasts go all the way with fermentation. Due to being made with desert apples, TC can lack the "apple" bite but there are some ways to get it back; Through research, OldBloke found that Suma Apple concentrate (available online or most good health food shops) works very well, some others have had success with putting shredded cooking apples into the ferment. I have 25L bubbling away merrily right now and when it's done, I plan on experimenting with boiled, aerated and cooled double strength tesco NAS apple squash - my experiments with the effect it had on cheap white cider suggested it should do the trick nicely, and being NAS, provide a touch of back sweetening.

So far, my tests have indicated that 5-10ml per 500ml of cider gives me the "apple" that commercial brews give (and i'd wager that it's the exact same thing the commercial producers do to their ciders )

[oldbloke]

Try the GV12

[Truffle Shuffle]

[quote="oldbloke"]Try the GV12[/quote]
I only have gv2 ?

[Truffle Shuffle]

Try the GV12

I only have gv2 ?

Wot am I on about? Just woke up . Sorry. I have heard somewhere that an ale yeast works well, it just didn't say which one.

[Truffle Shuffle]

Took your advice OB, got 23l on with the gv12 ale yeast. Blipping away nicely at a steady-ish 19 degrees.

[davew]

I've had some success cultivating the yeast from old Rosie. Seems to give the scrumpy effect.

[oldbloke]

I've had some success cultivating the yeast from old Rosie. Seems to give the scrumpy effect.

Yeh it's known to carry the lactobacillus you need for the extra malolactic ferment.

[Rookie]

. I have heard somewhere that an ale yeast works well, it just didn't say which one.

Last year I had great success brewing a coconut cider with Munton's.

[Hanglow]

I just bottled a turbo cider today, I used some of the yeast left over from a coopers sparkling ale kit. Worked great, finished at 1004 although that included the priming sugar so it probably finished at 1002. I left it in the primary for an extra week as i was a bit lazy . Sample was really tasty. It was the mixed ale/lager yeast that comes with that kit

[oldbloke]

I've used Munton's Gold with good results. And a recent batch with S04 seems Ok but is a bit young yet.
Seems just about any yeast works with TC, you get slight flavour differences but it's pretty much all good.

[Truffle Shuffle]

So this tc finished at 1.002 using the gv12 ale yeast. Been in the fv 2 weeks now and smells great. Taste wise it seemed ever so slightly 'thin'? But hopefully it was just me?

Just wondering tho as I'm a newbie... I have a spare working fridge, plugged in in the shed. could I put the fv in there for a week or so? Would it help or not? Especially as I'll then be bottling. Or should I just leave it welll alone until I bottle it? Any advice much appreciated guys.

[oldbloke]

Thin-ness is more likely down to ingredients than that yeast.
It's one reason I now always use Suma aj concentrate - more apple to the gallon than you can get with standard AJ. And I always add in something other than AJ to broaden the flavour profile, it really does help an awful lot.
A typical gallon for me is 500ml Suma, 500ml cheap AJ, 500ml cranberry, tsp tannin, tsp sweetener, tsp nutrient, yeast, make up to gallon with water

[Truffle Shuffle]

I'll have to try that recipe. I do love a cider, I like it dry like strongbow or the cheap taurus stuff from aldi. The last one I made was nice with a cheap wilkos wine yeast so still have high hopes for this one

[Pinto]

I'll have to try that recipe. I do love a cider, I like it dry like strongbow or the cheap taurus stuff from aldi. The last one I made was nice with a cheap wilkos wine yeast so still have high hopes for this one

It'll be fine Had a 4 pack of that Taurus stuff bought for me - pretty certain it's never seen an apple tho

As i've posted in one of my other cider threads, the cheap "juice drink" I added to my latest brew seemed to have added more apple and body than any of my previous turbos - we shall see if it persists into carbonation and conditioning.....