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ajh800

Stout

Post by ajh800 » Wed Dec 09, 2009 4:56 pm

Having made some Riggwelter a few months ago, there was a bag of Chocolate malt and Roasted Barley loitering in the cupboard. Found a recipe similar to this to use them up and gave it a go. I increased some of the grain and hops. Turned out really nice and a change to the usual TTL, summer lightning, first gold/fuggle brews that have kept me busy this year. This is it.

5000gm Maris Otta
210gm Crystal Malt
210gm Chocolate Malt
210gm Roasted Barley

Challenger 40 gm 90 min
EK Goldings 20 gm 90 min
EK Goldings 18 gm 10 min

Nott Yeast

Added some water to top up to 25 ltrs

Tried some straight out of the FV and it was delicious, bottled some and the rest went in the corny, now conditioning in the garage. Will sample a pint tonight.

Happy brewing

al

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Re: Stout

Post by WishboneBrewery » Wed Dec 09, 2009 6:48 pm

Like the hopping, that should work really well :)

crookedeyeboy

Re: Stout

Post by crookedeyeboy » Wed Dec 09, 2009 6:54 pm

My Black Dog Stout was made with Challenger only and it tastes lovely.

leedsbrew

Re: Stout

Post by leedsbrew » Wed Dec 09, 2009 8:27 pm

crookedeyeboy wrote:My Black Dog Stout was made with Challenger only and it tastes lovely.
I quite fancy doingthis one! It's ADM's recipe isn't it? I've just done four shades which is a single hop stout!
(cascades! Sounds wierd but tastes awesome!).
ajh800 wrote:Having made some Riggwelter a few months ago, there was a bag of Chocolate malt and Roasted Barley loitering in the cupboard. Found a recipe similar to this to use them up and gave it a go. I increased some of the grain and hops. Turned out really nice and a change to the usual TTL, summer lightning, first gold/fuggle brews that have kept me busy this year.
al
I've just done another riggwelter, it's a bloody awesome beer. Mine always comes out a bit too dark
compared to the commersial stuff. What recipe did you use?

ajh800

Re: Stout

Post by ajh800 » Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:20 am

Leeds Brew,

Used the Riggwelter recipe featured on this site, with the 1 gm of roasted barley.... A good brew but thought there was too much torrified wheat in it, my brew resulted with a far too obviuous nutty/almost yeasty flavour. Spoilt it by making it taste like 'homebrew'. Only done 2 brews using torrified and both had a taste that doesn't suit. Maybe I did something wrong but now omit torrified wheat from any recipes, its cack. Yes, also thought it was darker than Black Sheeps brew. The basis of the stout recipe came from the HOP and GRAIN recipe database site. Hop Back Brewery Entire Stout was the idea behind the stout I made.

Had a bottle last night, spot on.

Happy brewing

gratefuldave54

Re: Stout

Post by gratefuldave54 » Thu Dec 10, 2009 4:48 pm

Hi, I'm only a learning extract brewer on the slippery slope to the Darkside so excuse the lack of knowledge. So does this mean the Stout recipes in GW's book (which are all AG) can be done as per recipe but omitting the Torrefied wheat. If so I''ll be able to do extract versions. And what is Torrefied wheat anyway and what does it actually do ? Cheers-Dave

ajh800

Re: Stout

Post by ajh800 » Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:16 pm

gratefuldave54 wrote:Hi, I'm only a learning extract brewer on the slippery slope to the Darkside so excuse the lack of knowledge. So does this mean the Stout recipes in GW's book (which are all AG) can be done as per recipe but omitting the Torrefied wheat. If so I''ll be able to do extract versions. And what is Torrefied wheat anyway and what does it actually do ? Cheers-Dave
Hi Dave,

Torrified wheat is used to aid head retention and gives a slightly nutty taste. Its the nutty taste I have an issue with and can live without the head of the pint sliding down the inside of the glass as I drink it.

Never done extract brewing before, went straight to all-grain so cant really comment. Hopefully someone with more knowledge will be able to advise on this one. If not, just give it a go.

cheers

al

leedsbrew

Re: Stout

Post by leedsbrew » Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:46 pm

ajh800 wrote:Leeds Brew,

Used the Riggwelter recipe featured on this site, with the 1 gm of roasted barley.... A good brew but thought there was too much torrified wheat in it, my brew resulted with a far too obviuous nutty/almost yeasty flavour. Spoilt it by making it taste like 'homebrew'. Only done 2 brews using torrified and both had a taste that doesn't suit. Maybe I did something wrong but now omit torrified wheat from any recipes, its cack. Yes, also thought it was darker than Black Sheeps brew. The basis of the stout recipe came from the HOP and GRAIN recipe database site. Hop Back Brewery Entire Stout was the idea behind the stout I made.

Had a bottle last night, spot on.

Happy brewing
LOL that's the one I use, in the pics I take I always put the 1g on top of the grain bill so you can see it! :D it's only in there for shits and gigs eh! :D :D :D I've had a bit of a F up with the yeast, heating went off the other night so it's stuck. Gave it a rouse tonight and seems to be back up to speed! The 1st one i did is here if you fancy a peek! Same as the most recent except no decoction this time and I've tried WLP005 this time (which may prove to have been an error yet! :oops: ).
I have also gone off Tori wheat, use wheat malt instead and works a lot better IMHO Give it a whirl! :D

ajh800

Re: Stout

Post by ajh800 » Sat Dec 12, 2009 12:34 pm

Good pics there and a nice brewing set-up. Take it from the pics you add the hops to the wort before the worts boiling?

May do some photos of a brewing session this weekend. Gannets coming round on Thurs and suspect the stout will go and 5.7% first gold/fuggle brew. Dry hopping FiGo/Fu brew at moment with cascade...nice

Middo

Re: Stout

Post by Middo » Sat Dec 12, 2009 1:57 pm

gratefuldave54 wrote:And what is Torrefied wheat anyway and what does it actually do?
Torrefied wheat is unmalted wheat that's heated until it pops. As ajh800 said, it aids head formation and retention.

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