RED Seal?

[Deebee]

Hi,

i got hold of something called RED SEAl yesterday.

its a brew from California, i am guessing an AIPA or something.

It was at 5.4-5.5% rich and very tasty.

Anyone have an idea oon a recipe for it?

thanks

[Deebee]

Does no one have any idea. I'll have a look on the bottle and see if it tells me anything else ( a brewery maybe...)

[boingy]

Never heard of it, m8, but I can Google...

www.northcoastbrewing.com/beer-RedSeal.htm

[Barley Water]

Red Seal ale is what is known over here as an American Amber Ale (in California, they don't make IPA's that are that light in gravity). It is basicly an American pale ale with too much crystal malt and maybe not quite enough hops. I do not have a recipie but you can probably come up with something pretty easily by just poking around the internet. A quick and dirty way to get there would be to take a pale ale formulation and just jack up the crystal malt. You can probably almost leave the hopping as it is because the additional crystal will likely produce a beer that does not seem quite so hoppy. We ususally use Chico yeast (you know WLP01) and the hops will likely be the C hops from the Pacific Northwest. Hope that helps and good luck.

[Deebee]

Red Seal ale is what is known over here as an American Amber Ale (in California, they don't make IPA's that are that light in gravity). It is basicly an American pale ale with too much crystal malt and maybe not quite enough hops. I do not have a recipie but you can probably come up with something pretty easily by just poking around the internet. A quick and dirty way to get there would be to take a pale ale formulation and just jack up the crystal malt. You can probably almost leave the hopping as it is because the additional crystal will likely produce a beer that does not seem quite so hoppy. We ususally use Chico yeast (you know WLP01) and the hops will likely be the C hops from the Pacific Northwest. Hope that helps and good luck.

Thanks,
this was actually quite tasty.

I forgot to write the IBU down though can you help?

[Barley Water]

According to the brewery website, the IBU's are 42 (the beer is made my Northcost Brewing by the way). I also found a couple of clone formulations out there but since I have not brewed this myself I would not be able to verify how good, bad or indifferent they are. Anyway, the malt bill for one I found goes as follows: 75% 2 row pale malt (I assume they are using a US variety) 10% Crystal Malt 60L, 10% Wheat Malt and 5% Dextrine Malt. The brewery website also says the beer is 5.5% alcholol by volume so I would assume the starting gravity would be just a smidge over 1.050 so you can do the math to come up with a formulation for your system. As to hopping, the clone I saw was using Clusters for bittering and the remaing hops were Cascade (quite a bit of late hopping and a little dry hopping as well). I personally would never let Clusters hops anywhere near a beer that I brewed which makes me suspect of the hopping called for in the recipie I looked at. I have not had a Red Seal in a while so I would have to defer to somebody else concerning the hop schedule. Anyhow, hope that helps, the malts given above should at least make a decent beer and look reasonable although I wonder why everyone wants to always add wheat to their formulations. I suppose it is to get better head retention but I have never really had a problem with that myself so I really don't see the need. Anyhow, enjoy and let us know how it turns out when you brew it.

[Deebee]

thanks:-)↲Never heard of cluster but i guess they have a substitute.↲It's quite a high ibu, so i an imagining that most of them come at the start of the boil. Cascade in the last 10 then a gram pr litre in the fv would be ok. I'll have to have a play on beer smith later. Thanks again:-)

[adm]

Last time I bought Red Seal, it was something you smoked, not drank.

[Horatio]

Last time I bought Red Seal, it was something you smoked, not drank.

+1

[critch]

one of my regulars in the pub is in new york at the moment he rang me up and said hed got me some beers from stone and dogfish and an attractive little number called double bastard apparantly its 10.5%

well thats me mullered one night anyhow!

[borischarlton]

Last time I bought Red Seal, it was something you smoked, not drank.

+1

I have been thinking the same since I first saw this post. Along with gold seal, soap bar, slate ........

[Barley Water]

Clusters is a wild hop which has been around forever on this continent. You sometime see it in formulations for older American ales and CAPs. I have seen various descriptions of it's taste but the one that sticks in my mind is "tastes like cat piss". Now, I am pretty sure I have never tasted cat piss so I am no authority but I have used Clusters once and I really didn't care for it so I never use it in any beer I make. I'm sure you can use any Pacific Northwest high alpha hop for bittering and it will get the job done (and frankly I would be surprised if Northcoast is using Cluster either).

Critch, I will be interested in hearing your take on the Dogfish Head and Stone beers. Double Bastard is Stone's Imperial IPA. I actually like it better than Arogant Bastard as there is much more malt flavor offsetting the massive bitterness although to tell you the truth, both beers are a little much for me. Dogfish Head has a 60 and 90 minute IPA. I like the 60 minute which is a regular American IPA, the 90 minute is their Imperial version. Both beers are continuously hopped and in my humble opinion, the bitterness is much smoother than any of the Stone beers. You guys have a really nice IPA over there made by Meantime which I have had a couple of times, these beers are an American take on the same theme.