ind coope draught burton ale

[bernardthegurnard]

Hello, has anyone managed a good mimic of this one? I've tried the one from 'Brew your own ....' but the chocolate malt character doesn't sit well with the way I remember the beer from the good old days.
Mmm fresh and frothing over the side of a pint glass in a good old victorian Brummy boozer. Remember when Burton beer was actually brewed in Burton?

[weiht]

I'm sad to say that i've not tasted a beer from burton that makes me sit up. In fact i just wanna finish it so i can start with something else, really really sad about the sorry state its in.

[Oakey22]

I just cant get on with most things made in burton, dont like the lager for sure, think Carling tastes like sewer water, really hate the stuff. But then i do like Pedigree made at Marstons, this is nice and i plan on trying to do a brew the same as it.
I am also trying a brew of the burton bridge bitter as i can get free yeast from them which is very nice of them

[unclepumble]

You need to try the cottage brewerys Halcyon days then very small micro in burton but spot on beer.

The tower brewery in burton also do a few winners.

Pedigree is pish compared to what it was 20years plus ago you can keep it, GW's Recipe does a decent brew though for home in my opinion much better than the commercial.

To do DBA justice you will need the yeast, and that will be very hard to get hold of now, not impossible but very hard.

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[Bopper]

Ive got a book with so much info about burton's, which tell a lot of percentage of the recipe, i can tell you sugar is used in most! One is brewed with 17% of glucose sugar!! Richard

[Dennis King]

According to The Homebrewers Recipe Database the grain bill is
87.5% pale malt
1.5% chocolate malt
11% maltrose syrup
to an OG of 1047.
The hops are
target
styrian goldings late hops
styrian goldings dry hops
to 30 IBU
The book credits this to Graham Wheeler, the recipe appears in his 1st book. As for yeast my guess would be Whitelabs Burton WLP023 would be the closes readily available.
Used to drink this regularly in Ye old mitre off Hatton garden when I worked there in the 70`s. Always a decent pint.

[Bopper]

Thank you very much Dennis for the recipe, most beer tasty beers contain added sugar one kind or another, a lot of homebrewers do not realise this!! eg. Wadworth 6x, Arkells 3b's and so on! Why is Foster's lager so popular!! because it contains a high percentage of added sugar, look at the Cooper's Australian lager kits, add 1kg sugar. Richard

[Scotty]

Thank you very much Dennis for the recipe, most beer tasty beers contain added sugar one kind or another, a lot of homebrewers do not realise this!! eg. Wadworth 6x, Arkells 3b's and so on! Why is Foster's lager so popular!! because it contains a high percentage of added sugar, look at the Cooper's Australian lager kits, add 1kg sugar. Richard

Are you for real?

Fosters is popular as it is cheap and readily available with clever marketing and the power of a global organisation. The people who generally drink it, drink it to get pissed cheaply.

Coopers kits require added sugar to obtain the correct SG, as do all other one-can homebrew kits. Two can homebrew kits don't require extra sugar.

Added sugar is a cheap way of boosting alcohol to keep accountants happy. Grain is so highly modified these days that extraction efficiencies are better meaning there is no need to add sugar. Some recipes still use sugars but I very much doubt most real ale breweries use sugars.

That recipe looks good Dennis but given the hop bill, I would replace the maltose with pale malt for a better malt flavour.

[unclepumble]

Thank you very much Dennis for the recipe, most beer tasty beers contain added sugar one kind or another, a lot of homebrewers do not realise this!! eg. Wadworth 6x, Arkells 3b's and so on! Why is Foster's lager so popular!! because it contains a high percentage of added sugar, look at the Cooper's Australian lager kits, add 1kg sugar. Richard

Are you for real?

Fosters is popular as it is cheap and readily available with clever marketing and the power of a global organisation. The people who generally drink it, drink it to get pissed cheaply.

Coopers kits require added sugar to obtain the correct SG, as do all other one-can homebrew kits. Two can homebrew kits don't require extra sugar.

Added sugar is a cheap way of boosting alcohol to keep accountants happy. Grain is so highly modified these days that extraction efficiencies are better meaning there is no need to add sugar. Some recipes still use sugars but I very much doubt most real ale breweries use sugars.

That recipe looks good Dennis but given the hop bill, I would replace the maltose with pale malt for a better malt flavour.

You are so off the mark Scotty.

Fosters is popular because,
A) it is readily available in most pubs
B) it lacks a dominant flavour and is served cold so its very easy to drink, therefore more people drink it, because bland flavours offend taste buds less.
C) "the people that drink it drink it to get Pished cheaply", You need to drink a fair amount to get Pished it does make you Pish a lot though.
D) it is a heavily advertised "BRAND" and "BRAND" is the operative word as the people that market FOSTERS will use sayings such as part of the brand is the liquid, where as you view Fosters as the actual lager, the Marketing men see the beer as a small part of the Fosters experience, the nature of humans is to latch onto a brand name.

Added sugar is not I repeat NOT a cheap way of boosting alcohol to keep accountants happy, sugar is added as it produces a beer that will condition much faster than an all grain beer, most commercial british lagers are grain to keg in around 10days & in the pub within 14days the only way they are able to do this is by utilising adjuncts such as rice maize and sugar effectivly along with highly controlled fermentation temperatures, nothing to do with the price of sugar.

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[Scotty]

You are so off the mark Scotty.

Really? The points you have just made are in majority, the same as mine.