Help Formulating an Irish Ale

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Help Formulating an Irish Ale

Post by Barley Water » Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:28 pm

This weekend I am making a CAP with a ceral mash but I will need a nice beer to take to an event near the end of March and the CAP will not be ready in time. I have been trying to come up with a good formulation for an Irish ale for a couple of years and have not yet hit the mark.

What I want is a beer with an O.G. of about 1.045. It should be red/copper, malty with medium body, relatively low hop bitterness (say 18/22 IBU) and low to no hop flavor or aroma. Basicly a malty, easy drinker which could serve as a session type beer. My first shot at the grist is:

79% Marris Otter
9% Crystal Malt (UK variety about 60 L)
11% Munich Malt
1% Roast Barley

Mash would be single infusion at about 152F.
Hops would be Fuggles or other UK variety, bittering charge only and go for about 20 IBU.
Ferment at 68 F with White Labs 02 (Fullers yeast).

I think this beer would be really good if I could get some toffee flavors in the background so I propose to boil down some of the first runnings. I am hoping that the combination of the diacetyl from the yeast choice along with the carmalized sugars from the boiled wort will give me a buttery/toffee flavor which will not only taste good but make the beer drink bigger than it really is. The other parameter I would like to achieve would be to make the beer really smooth. My initial thought would be to add maybe a little flaked oats or barley but I am open to suggestions. By the way, I added the roast barley to try and dry out the finish plus add the red tint the style requires.

Anyway, if anybody has any good ideas (or thinks some of my ideas are a little off) please let me know. Hopefully I can come up with a really good session beer and hopefully learn a few thinks in the bargin. Thanks for the help. :D
Drinking:Saison (in bottles), Belgian Dubbel (in bottles), Oud Bruin (in bottles), Olde Ale (in bottles),
Abbey Triple (in bottles), Munich Helles, Best Bitter (TT Landlord clone), English IPA
Conditioning: Traditional bock bier, CAP
Fermenting: Munich Dunkel
Next up: Bitter (London Pride like), ESB
So many beers to make, so little time (and cold storage space)

Gurgeh

Post by Gurgeh » Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:15 pm

Brupaks CARA RED (Germ.)
Gives fuller body. Improves malt aroma. Deep, saturated colour. Red colour. Max.10-15% 40-60 E.B.C.
any use to you?

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Post by Barley Water » Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:59 pm

Thanks Gurgeh, I have never used that malt before. How would you use it in the formulation? Would you swap it for the English crystal malt or just a portion of it? I am guessing it is basicly a German crystal malt but I don't think I have seen it in the homebrew shop I frequent although I think I have run across it in magazine articles a couple of times. What kind of flavor would you expect from it vs. your standard crystal malt?
Drinking:Saison (in bottles), Belgian Dubbel (in bottles), Oud Bruin (in bottles), Olde Ale (in bottles),
Abbey Triple (in bottles), Munich Helles, Best Bitter (TT Landlord clone), English IPA
Conditioning: Traditional bock bier, CAP
Fermenting: Munich Dunkel
Next up: Bitter (London Pride like), ESB
So many beers to make, so little time (and cold storage space)

Gurgeh

Post by Gurgeh » Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:02 pm

No idea mate!

I'm yet to see anyone rave about its use....

the one time i used it was early in my AG days and i didn't really manage to make the most of it :oops:

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