Rochefort 10 recipe?

[mysterio]

Anyone got a Rochefort 10 recipe knocking about? In particular how to recreate the kind of burnt sugar/caramel flavour. I've seen all kinds of weird and wonderful recipes knocking about online but none of them seem to ring true. I'm guessing a big dose of the extra dark candi syrup is in order, like this stuff:

http://morebeer.com/view_product/8783/1 ... yrup_DARK2

[mysterio]

Actually theres some good info in Brew Like A Monk. OG: 1.096 ( ) ABV (11.3%) ( ) ADF 89%, IBU 27, Pilsener & Caramel malts, White sugar, dark sugar, wheat starch, coriander, styrian goldings & hallertau hops, Rochefort yeast, yeast is pitched at 20C allowed to rise to 23C.

Probably need something like 20% sugar to get that high ADF ?

[spearmint-wino]

Any chance of the full reecipe, myst?

I had a couple of bottles of this to round off the night at the LAB 1st birthday party and despite the hangover its a firm favourite now

[mysterio]

It's some good stuff isn't it. Sadly thats all the info the book gives. Trying to knock up a recipe in Beersmith but i've got limited experience with Belgian ales.

So far i've got 68% Lager malt, 5% Aromatic malt, 5% Special B malt, 11% Extra dark candi syrup, 11% Plain sucrose for the fermentables. No idea if that will be anywhere close

I know White Labs do the Rochefort yeast and we know the temps so that's a start.

[oblivious]

I would probably drop the sugar and use all dark candi syrup if you can

[steve_flack]

This is supposedly decent for Rochefort 8

http://www.geocities.com/iluvhops/brouw ... fort8.html

[oblivious]

Here is a brewing network show about Rochefort

PDF to go along with the podcast

http://www.homebrewchef.com/Inside_Rochefort.pdf

Also an version of the 10 http://www.homebrewchef.com/Rochefort10CloneRecipe.html

[mysterio]

Rochefort 8 has a kind of musty taste that I don't really like. Interesting recipe though.

Oblivious, i've listened to the podcast before and it's quite interesting. Sean Paxton is taking the piss with that recipe though. Six different sugars and a dozen grains ??

[mysterio]

How's this looking folks? Planning on using that extra dark candi syrup i posted a link to. More sugar needed maybe? The syrup is going to cost a fortune too.. maybe go with the crystals?

Rochefort 10
Belgian Dark Strong Ale

Type: All Grain
Date: 11/11/2008
Batch Size: 12.00 gal
Boil Size: 13.74 gal Boil Time: 90 min

Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
11.20 kg Lager Malt (3.9 EBC) Grain 65.50 %
0.70 kg Caramunich Malt (110.3 EBC) Grain 4.09 %
0.70 kg Special B Malt (354.6 EBC) Grain 4.09 %
0.70 kg Wheat, Flaked (3.2 EBC) Grain 4.09 %
160.00 gm Styrian Goldings [4.00 %] (80 min) Hops 25.2 IBU
20.00 gm Hallertauer [4.80 %] (10 min) Hops 1.3 IBU
10.00 gm Coriander Seed (Boil 1.0 min) Misc
2.30 kg Candi Sugar, Dark (541.8 EBC) Sugar 13.45 %
1.50 kg Sugar, Table (Sucrose) (2.0 EBC) Sugar 8.77 %
1 Pkgs Belgian Abbey II (Wyeast Labs #1762) Yeast-Ale

Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.096 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.009 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 11.3 %
Bitterness: 26.5 IBU
Est Color: 91.9

Mash Profile

My Mash Step Time Name Description Step Temp
15 min Step Add 26.60 L of water at 55.3 C 50.0 C
90 min Step Add 14.63 L of water at 97.5 C 65.0 C

[oblivious]

Oblivious, i've listened to the podcast before and it's quite interesting. Sean Paxton is taking the piss with that recipe though. Six different sugars and a dozen grains ??

Yea there is a lot in it probably to much buts Its really trying to create the complexly, remember this beer is in realty just 80% pils ans 20% dark candy syrup.

His other Belgian strong dark with a some what similar bill , “A Saucerful of Secrets” has done very well.

[oblivious]

Here is the brew day for “A Saucerful of Secrets” at Firstone, some nice looking picks


http://www.homebrewchef.com/Brewingwith ... ldson.html

[mysterio]

Interesting recipe, I think i'll bump it up to 25% sugar after looking at that.

[delboy]

Interesting recipe, I think i'll bump it up to 25% sugar after looking at that.

Not one for a school night then

[oblivious]

Hi Mysterio are you sure about the 160.00 gm Styrian Goldings?

[mysterio]

Not really, thats about a tenner of hops

Probably just bung in some high alpha stuff. It's not exactly a beer about hop character afterall.