Fiddler's Elbow Recipe Anyone?

[garwatts]

Fiddler's Elbow

"Fiddler's Elbow is Wychwood’s golden and refreshing beer and evokes the lazy, hazy days of summer in golden meadows & ripe corn fields.
This wheat-brewed refreshing summer ale is 4.5% ABV in bottle. The addition of the choicest English wheat malt perfectly complements the use of Styrian Goldings hops. The end result is a wonderful combination of citrus and floral aroma, with tart citric fruit flavours and a long hoppy fruity finish. A wonderfully refreshing beer.

Wychwood - brewers of characterABV: 4.5%
Cask: as a seasonal beer only
Hops: Styrian and Northdown
Malts: Pale Wheat and Crystal"

Has anyone got the recipe please?

[rick_huggins]

Just had a bottle tonight and I too would love the ingredients for this one..

[garwatts]

The web site mentions ABV: 4.5% - Norm's is ABV 4.0%
Hops: Styrian and Northdown - Norm's just Styrians
Malts: Pale, Wheat and Crystal - Norm's just pale and wheat malt

Seems to be a different beast

[haz66]

Heres my recipe for it

3.5kg Maris Otter Pale Malt
400g Wheat Malt
200g Crystal Malt
200g Cane Sugar
30g Styrian Goldings @ 60mins (AA 4.1%)
20g Styrian Goldings @ 20mins (AA 4.1%)
10g Styrian Goldings @ 10mins (AA 4.1%)
10g Styrian Goldings @ 0mins (AA 4.1%)

IBU`s 20.29

[haz66]

This is my latest attemp at it, but i could only get Bobek
when i brewed it, but the early signs are that there isn`t much
difference in taste between Styrian and Bobek.

3600g Maris Otter Pale Malt
400g Wheat malt
200g Crystal Malt
200g Cane sugar (into the boiler)
10g Roasted Barley (Just to add a bit of colour)
25g Bobek @ 60 mins AA5.2%
15g Bobek @ 20 mins AA5.2%
5g Bobek @ 10mins AA5.2%
5g Bobek @ 0 mins AA5.2%
1 protafloc tablet @ 20 mins
12g Safale S04 yeast

Target 23 ltrs @ 75% Eff = OG 1043
BU:GU Ratio 0.46 IBU`s 20.02

This was brewed just over 4 weeks ago, so i`m actually going to be sampling it tonight,
so will post a tasting update.

[hazard]

Hi, I've recently sampled this beer and really enjoyed it. I have the bottle in front of me, and it states very clearly on the label:
Fiddler's Elbow is a wonderfully refreshing beer brewed with wheat, malt and hopped with Styrians.
Contents: Wheat and Barley malt.
Alcohol 5.2%

So unless they send a different brew to Australia, I don't know why all the recipes on this forum are low in alcohol, and why they have sugar - no sign of this as an ingredient! Also no mention of any hops apart from Styrians. I liked this beer and wouldn't mind having a go but I am confused as to what we are aiming for, because the recipes quoted here are not quite in line with the info on the bottle. Any idea what's going on?
Hazard

[arturobandini]

Wychwood have had a sleek dazzling marketing veneer since Refresh UK took over and a few things have changed probably to make them more cost effective like loweing ABV. I hadn't had a bottle of Wychwood Goliath in a while and picked one up in the supermarket only to discover upon my return home that they'd changed the label design and shrunk the bottle size!

I do enjoy Wychwood beers but to be honest they're all variations on the Hobgoblin theme so if you use that as your base and remove/add malts as required you'll probably hit it on the money.

Just to reiterate what Chris says as well; Casked versions of most beers are much lower in alcohol in almost all cases and the Cask is where a lot of recipes come from. Hobgoblin is something like 4% on the pump whereas in the bottle it's something like 5.2%.

[Garth]

That is usually the case but the last time I had Hobgoblin on handpump, about 6 months ago, it was 5%.

[arturobandini]

I think they cut it to 4.5% on pump last year at some point....not sure as outside a Wychwood owned Pub in that London I have rarely seen it on the Pump.

[Garth]

Yeah, it is quite rare on handpump, especially up here, which is a shame as it's a cracking beer.

Last time I had it was in the Queens Head Gilesgate, just up from Durham City centre, there was 10 of us and I bet we supped 40 pints of the stuff......

[hazard]

Not different bottles, just very old ones.

Well, I've just looked at this bottle again for signs of age. The label also says "Best Before 21 July 2009"

You really think this was made in 2003?? Is the watered down version for UK only - maybe ABV was lowered for taxation purposes, and maybe there is a tax concession for exports so we get the old, stronger, stuff downunder?

Hazard

[O'Henry]

I thought the export bottles were stronger, along with bottles in general, to preserve them better as they are not drunk as close to the bottling time.

[Garth]

probably was early last year when I think about it, it was handwritten in chalk on the blackboard clip.

[arturobandini]

Nothing seems to be permanent about Wychwood at the moment as I grabbed a bottle of Goliath today and it's back up to 660ml bottles so fill your boots lads.

[simple one]

Nothing seems to be permanent about Wychwood at the moment as I grabbed a bottle of Goliath today and it's back up to 660ml bottles so fill your boots lads.

It's funny you should say that. Me and the missus shared a bottle of Fiddlers Elbow about 8 months ago. Bought it out of curiousity really, my mate kept going on about hobgoblin. It was amazingly hoppy, stunk of stryians, had that wheaty twang in the malt, it was delicous. It was so nice, I was on the verge of proclaiming it my favourite tipple.
Bought another one a month or two later though and the beer seemed plain. Lacked the full flavoured hops of the first. There was definitely a marked difference.

Could have benn the time sat on the shelf. Could have been a diffence in the production.

Just wish the next one would taste like the first.