help with a recipe

[400d]

ok, this is what I got:

pale malt - unlimited amount
black malt - 0,5 kg
crystal malt - 0,5 kg
wheat malt - 0,5 kg
flaked barley - unlimited amount
flaked wheat - unlimited amount


target hops
magnum hops
super styrian hops
first gold whole leaf hops

S-04 yeast
S-05 yeast


what kind of recipe would you make out of these ingredients?

thank you

[Deebee]

I think i would go for something like this.

25 liter brew.

4000 pale
320 wheat malt
150 crystal

Target for bittering to around 28 IBU over 60 minutes.

Styrian goldings 15 minutes for 3 IBU
Styrian goldings at 5 minutes to 3 ibu

safeale 04 or notty

Nice classic style pale ale! OG around the 1040 mark.

You could then have a mass of goldings etc as dry hops in the final stages of fermentation if you wanted.


Just a thought.

[400d]

I think i would go for something like this.

25 liter brew.

4000 pale
320 wheat malt
150 crystal

Target for bittering to around 28 IBU over 60 minutes.

Styrian goldings 15 minutes for 3 IBU
Styrian goldings at 5 minutes to 3 ibu

safeale 04 or notty

Nice classic style pale ale! OG around the 1040 mark.

You could then have a mass of goldings etc as dry hops in the final stages of fermentation if you wanted.


Just a thought.

first of all, thank you for your reply.

I think you're mixing super styrian and styrian goldings which are not the same. I think super styrian equals aurora, but I'm not sure....

what do you think of making a stout with the ingredients that I have, and how would you make it?

[floydmeddler]

I think i would go for something like this.

25 liter brew.

4000 pale
320 wheat malt
150 crystal

Target for bittering to around 28 IBU over 60 minutes.

Styrian goldings 15 minutes for 3 IBU
Styrian goldings at 5 minutes to 3 ibu

safeale 04 or notty

Nice classic style pale ale! OG around the 1040 mark.

You could then have a mass of goldings etc as dry hops in the final stages of fermentation if you wanted.


Just a thought.

first of all, thank you for your reply.

I think you're mixing super styrian and styrian goldings which are not the same. I think super styrian equals aurora, but I'm not sure....

what do you think of making a stout with the ingredients that I have, and how would you make it?

You could go for 4.5kg pale, 500g black, 500g flaked barley and use Target hops for bittering only. Target are great for stouts.

[Deebee]

I think i would go for something like this.

25 liter brew.

4000 pale
320 wheat malt
150 crystal

Target for bittering to around 28 IBU over 60 minutes.

Styrian goldings 15 minutes for 3 IBU
Styrian goldings at 5 minutes to 3 ibu

safeale 04 or notty

Nice classic style pale ale! OG around the 1040 mark.

You could then have a mass of goldings etc as dry hops in the final stages of fermentation if you wanted.


Just a thought.

first of all, thank you for your reply.

I think you're mixing super styrian and styrian goldings which are not the same. I think super styrian equals aurora, but I'm not sure....

what do you think of making a stout with the ingredients that I have, and how would you make it?

Oops.

I think i would then use the first gold as aroma hops in the same quantities as the styrians i muddled up.

this way you can use the other bittering hops and make a secon batch of stout

the recipe floyd gave looks good.

[400d]

You could go for 4.5kg pale, 500g black, 500g flaked barley and use Target hops for bittering only. Target are great for stouts.

yes, this sounds good. but it would be even better if I had roasted barley. what do you think could I roast some on my own? I can buy raw barley.....?

If you think it would be possible to roast it at home, than how? what temperatures? should I soak it in water or not?

[Whorst]

Recipes look great. I'd use UK-05 as your yeast if you like hops.

[400d]

this is what I'm going to brew:

4,5 kg pale malt
0,5 kg flaked barley
0,4 kg roasted barley
0,5 kg black malt


23 g Target hops 60 minutes


S-04

I roasted some raw barley on my own. Do you think it will ruin my beer, because I roasted it on my own? I've read that stout must contain some roasted barley.... what do you think of my grain bill, would you change something?

[400d]

I did it. I brewed a stout, my first stout. So I ended up with 1.062 gravity before pitching the yeast, and I had to lower it a bit, so I added 3 liters of boiled water to the cooled wort and I finished with 1.052 OG.

I had a huge stuck sparge, and don't ask me how I managed to sparge, but at the end I had 24 liters in the fermenter. I just pitched the S-04 yeast....

The wort smelled like heaven. I hopped with 15 g of Target for 60 minutes, and 10 g for 5 minutes, by the calculator I should have 35 IBU.

The recipe is from my previous post, and I hope everything will be ok in the end. I am worried about the head space that I have left, it's only 7 centimeters, because my bucket is 30 liters....

[floydmeddler]

Assuming an efficiency of 75%, I input your ingredients and measurements into my Beertools program under the 'Dry Stout' profile:

400D Stout
13-A Dry Stout

Size: 23 L
Efficiency: 75.0%
Attenuation: 75.0%
Calories: 184.73 kcal per 12.0 fl oz

Original Gravity: 1.055 (1.036 - 1.050)
Terminal Gravity: 1.014 (1.007 - 1.011)
Color: 33.82 (25.0 - 40.0)
Alcohol: 5.46% (4.0% - 5.0%)
Bitterness: 25.0 (30.0 - 45.0)

Ingredients:
4.5 kg Maris Otter Pale Ale Malt
500 g Barley Flaked
400 g Roasted Barley
500 g Black Malt
23 g Target (10.0%) - added during boil, boiled 60 min

Results generated by BeerTools Pro 1.5.5

. What is the aa% of the target hops? Unless it's really high, I suggest you add more.

Here is a version of your recipe tweaked to suit the 'Dry Stout' profile assuming 75% and 10% aa on the Target hops:

400D Stout
13-A Dry Stout

Size: 23 L
Efficiency: 75.0%
Attenuation: 76.0%

Original Gravity: 1.046 (1.036 - 1.050)
Terminal Gravity: 1.011 (1.007 - 1.011)
Color: 33.74 (25.0 - 40.0)
Alcohol: 4.55% (4.0% - 5.0%)
Bitterness: 40.2 (30.0 - 45.0)

Ingredients:
3.5 kg Maris Otter Pale Ale Malt
500 g Barley Flaked
400 g Roasted Barley
500 g Black Malt
37.0 g Target (10.0%) - added during boil, boiled 60 min

Results generated by BeerTools Pro 1.5.5

Hope this helps!

[400d]

my target is 13.5% that's why I added this amount....


Now I have another problem, believe it or not, HALF of my fermentor is trub. this is incredible, I've never had such a thing.....

[Deebee]

my target is 13.5% that's why I added this amount....


Now I have another problem, believe it or not, HALF of my fermentor is trub. this is incredible, I've never had such a thing.....

I would think that much of this is break material and will settle out in the next few days or so...

It's all a learning curve.

BUT







WE NEED PICTURES!!!!

[400d]

this is how it looks. I pitched dry yeast 4 hours ago in 20°C wort. By now all my beers settled down to probably 10th of this amount of trub......


don't know what to do....

[floydmeddler]

It'll be OK. it will settle once the yeast has done its work and activity slows down. I used to have this kind of thing happen in the past. These days I use a pump to recirculate the wort during the mashing stage and also before I add it to the fermenter. Did the trick!

[400d]

after 24 hours, I didn't have any airlock activity... so I shook the fermentor couple of times, and after 5 minutes I had rock'n'roll


is it ok to do this?