Betty Stoggs - Clone

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Re: Betty Stoggs - Clone

Post by Kegman » Sat Jul 14, 2012 7:10 pm

Nice one mate, hope you're happy with it.. no pressure on me or anything :) I worked out the entire recipe using the "Beer Engine", Graham Wheeler's Beer Engine calculator located here: http://www.practicalbrewing.co.uk/calcu ... eerengine/

I looked at other beers EBC's to get an idea.

Bad news for mine, turns out the lid was leaking in my King Keg so after drawing off a couple of pints it got air in it which ruined it. Can't say I'm too impressed with that King Keg, first the tap leaked, now the lid and I think it's leaking from the valve. I've got an old Edme one I got from Boots about 15 years ago and have never had these problems.

On the plus side, I'm gonna have to make another one now :)

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Re: Betty Stoggs - Clone

Post by Goulders » Sat Jul 14, 2012 7:47 pm

Bought a bottle of this to try tonight. Sounds good

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Re: Betty Stoggs - Clone

Post by Troutman47 » Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:33 pm

Goulders wrote:Bought a bottle of this to try tonight. Sounds good

Goulders, you'll love it!!

Kegman, I'm gutted for you!

I bottle all my beers, I know it takes longer but I prefer them that way, they condition quicker and they don't leak!

Something else I noticed today, you're ABV was 4.0% but when I put it into Beer Alchemy it said 3.8%.
I'm wondering about the accuracy of Beer Alchemy, the colour was lighter and the ABV lower.

I've adjusted the recipe to make it 4% but I'm having second thoughts and think I should keep it as you've posted so we can compare.

What's your thoughts?

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Re: Betty Stoggs - Clone

Post by Goulders » Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:01 pm

And very nice too! :beer:

Not what I expected, very little CO2, so almost draught in a bottle. Will definitely buy again and makes a change to hophead beers.

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Re: Betty Stoggs - Clone

Post by Troutman47 » Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:20 pm

Glad you enjoyed it Goulders, they have this as a guest ale at my local from time to time and serve it straight from the cask!

Superb! =D>

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Re: Betty Stoggs - Clone

Post by Troutman47 » Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:29 pm

Well the yeast has been pitched.

All went well except mine is an amber colour as Beer Alchemy said it would be! :(

What is the EBC on your MO and Crystal?

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Re: Betty Stoggs - Clone

Post by Kegman » Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:40 pm

Exciting stuff! It is quite amber BTW, it's not like a golden summer ale although it does taste a bit like one.

Pale Malt EBC 4.5-5.5
Crystal EBC 120

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Re: Betty Stoggs - Clone

Post by Troutman47 » Sun Jul 15, 2012 3:35 pm

Your EBC's are the same as mine yet you photo's make it look quite red, I blame Delia! "Where are You?"

I'm gonna have to buy a bottle to compare.

Next week it's Gigantor Yank -

Recipe: Gigantor Yank

Recipe Overview

Wort Volume Before Boil: 32.00 l
Wort Volume After Boil: 25.00 l
Volume Transferred: 23.00 l
Water Added: 0.00 l
Volume At Pitching: 23.00 l
Final Batch Volume: 23.00 l
Expected Pre-Boil Gravity: 1.035 SG
Expected OG: 1.045 SG
Expected FG: 1.011 SG
Expected ABV: 4.5 %
Expected ABW: 3.5 %
Expected IBU (using Tinseth): 26.0
Expected Color: 20.0 EBC
Apparent Attenuation: 74.9 %
Mash Efficiency: 75.0 %
Boil Duration: 90.0 mins
Fermentation Temperature: 18 degC

Fermentables
UK Pale Ale Malt 4.000 kg (81.5 %) In Mash/Steeped
UK Medium Crystal 0.500 kg (10.2 %) In Mash/Steeped
UK Torrified Wheat 0.400 kg (8.1 %) In Mash/Steeped
UK Roasted Barley 0.010 kg (0.2 %) In Mash/Steeped

Hops
US Cascade (6.8 % alpha) 100 g Loose Whole Hops used 10 Min From End

Other Ingredients
Protofloc 1 used In Boil

Yeast: Danstar-Nottingham

Mash Schedule
Mash Type: Full Mash
Schedule Name:Single Step Infusion (66C/151F) w/Mash Out
Step: Rest at 66 degC for 90 mins
Step: Raise to and Mash out at 77 degC for 15 mins

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Re: Betty Stoggs - Clone

Post by Kegman » Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:16 pm

Yeah Delia has a lot to answer for, she was probably drunk when that photo was taken hence the duff colours.

Gigantor Yank looks good, have you made it before?

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Re: Betty Stoggs - Clone

Post by Troutman47 » Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:34 pm

No I haven't, I was in my LHBS yesterday, local being 24 miles away, picking up the Northdown hops for your recipe when I saw the Cascade and thought I've heard a lot about these hops so bought them.
When I got home I had a quick search on here for info on what type of beer they have been used in and then came up with the recipe on Beer Alchemy.

There's a post on here about Cascade, the poster is using them for the first time as well and has come up with his own recipe too.
I think the post was titled 'first time with Cascade'.

Going back to the Northdown Hops, how fantastic do the smell!!!
And the Styrian Goldings!!

I'm wanting to get away from the Fuggles and Goldings Combo so a great start!

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Re: Betty Stoggs - Clone

Post by Kegman » Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:46 pm

They are lovely hops, I chose them from reading descriptions and trying to guess which would work best for Betty Stoggs & it is good to get away from the norm too as you say. I was wrong somewhere though, pretty sure Styrian is right but Betty Stoggs has a particular taste that I can't place as yet.. Still, it makes a good beer anyway! :)

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Re: Betty Stoggs - Clone

Post by Kegman » Sat Jul 28, 2012 5:44 pm

Hi Troutman47 how's the beer?

I've made another batch today, my OG was 1054, quite a way off as the engine suggested 1040. Last time I made it I messed up when measuring it so wasn't exactly sure what it was.... what was yours?

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Re: Betty Stoggs - Clone

Post by Troutman47 » Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:56 pm

Hi Kegman,

I should be bottling my Betty this w/e but im away in Bristol visiting my old folk.
It might get done tomorrow if not it'll be Monday.

I can't remember off hand what my og was, it was probably higher than expected as I'm using Tipple pale malt and achieving 90% + mash efficiency!

I've got a bottle of BS ready to sample when mine is ready and will post pic's when I taste test.

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Re: Betty Stoggs - Clone

Post by Kegman » Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:54 am

How are you achieving 90%+ mash efficiency? Is it all down to the Tipple pale malt?

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Re: Betty Stoggs - Clone

Post by Troutman47 » Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:59 pm

I believe so, have a look at it on the copper kettle website.

Pre boil target gravity was 1.029, actual was 1.034
Post boil target gravity was 1.038, actual was 1.041!

Just checked, actual mash efficiency was 89.6%.

Another own recipe beer I made, experimenting with 'hop bursting', I achieved 90.9% efficiency! :shock:


Bottling the Stog tomorrow :lol:

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