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Gelatin

Post by Swiller » Sun Mar 03, 2013 12:42 pm

Never used it but one of my recipes
say its essential for this particular beer.... Dunno.
Which one would you guys use if at all?

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Re: Gelatin

Post by 6470zzy » Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:22 pm

I haven't ever seen a recipe that called specifically for the use of gelatin.......... but that said, this one should do you fine
http://www.waitrose.com/shop/ProductVie ... ne+Sachets

You shouldn't need more than a teaspoon of the stuff heated in a teacups worth of water and it will help drop the yeast out of your beer to make it bright :beer:

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Re: Gelatin

Post by Pinto » Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:36 pm

I was skeptical the first time I used gelatin in my keg - used one sachet in the xmas bitter when priming - but it dropped absolutely crystal and set the sediment in a semi solid jelly in the bottom :)

It was undetectable in the brew so go ahead and use it as you see fit
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Re: Gelatin

Post by Jim » Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:47 pm

Don't use it if you're bottling - it leaves an unstable sediment. Use for barrels only.
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Re: Gelatin

Post by jimp2003 » Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:56 pm

Jim wrote:Don't use it if you're bottling - it leaves an unstable sediment. Use for barrels only.
+1 I have only used gelatin once and it left a very mobile sediment in the bottles - a right PITA! I have now learnt to live with beers that are less than crystal clear but I can appreciate why people might want to use these finings.

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Re: Gelatin

Post by Swiller » Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:14 pm

Thanks very much for the replies guys.

May be I will give it a go, it will be for kegging
not bottling (thank's Jim).

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Re: Gelatin

Post by Swiller » Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:16 pm

[quote="6470zzy"]I haven't ever seen a recipe that called specifically for the use of gelatin.......... but that said, this one should do you fine
http://www.waitrose.com/shop/ProductVie ... ne+Sachets

You shouldn't need more than a teaspoon of the stuff heated in a teacups worth of water and it will help drop the yeast out of your beer to make it bright :beer:

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Ozzy, I notice that one contains beef will it leave a taste? #-o
only mention this as there is a vegetarian alternative.

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Re: Gelatin

Post by 6470zzy » Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:06 am

Swiller wrote:
Ozzy, I notice that one contains beef will it leave a taste? #-o
only mention this as there is a vegetarian alternative.
No aftertaste mate I promise you. All real gelatine is made from collagen derived from animals :D

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Re: Gelatin

Post by Pinto » Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:32 am

Vegetarian stuff is Agar IIRC
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Re: Gelatin

Post by orlando » Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:02 am

Ozzy, I notice that one contains beef will it leave a taste? #-o
only mention this as there is a vegetarian alternative.
How can you be sure it's just beef :D , another scandal? On a serious note there are a number of proprietary products that contain it e.g I use a product called Kwik Clear for fining in keg & bottle and have always been pleased with the results.
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Re: Gelatin

Post by Phoenix » Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:30 pm

Anyone know if veggie gel used for making vegetarian jelly dessert would work to clear beer instead of regular gelatine.

Most beers I just let time do the work of clearing but sometimes poor flocculating yeasts need a hand.

Most answers are correct, more kegs, patience etc but no answer for veg gel.

I may have to do an extra gallon on next brew and put it in a demijohn with veg gel to find out.

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Re: Gelatin

Post by orlando » Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:08 pm

Phoenix wrote:
Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:30 pm
I may have to do an extra gallon on next brew and put it in a demijohn with veg gel to find out.


I don't know the answer to your question but what you propose would be interesting to learn about anyway. If you could take pictures and post the result I'm sure it would be very welcome information.
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Re: Gelatin

Post by Phoenix » Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:36 pm

Will do that, when I next have a beer that would benefit from the addition. I don't want to experiment on a whole 5 gallons and potentially destroy a days brewing effort.
I don't follow a vegetarian diet but have friends who do, they often ask questions about ingredients in the beer I foist on them.
If they knew how much livestock (insects) there are in harvested hops, they shouldn't be worried about a bit of residual if any gelatine.
I recently used leaf gelatine as I couldn't get hold of powdered gelatine its a bit more more expensive but I noticed it doesn't smell as awful and dissolves more easily, it was added to the keg and I'm waiting to see the results.

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Re: Gelatin

Post by orlando » Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:55 pm

Phoenix wrote:
Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:36 pm
I recently used leaf gelatine as I couldn't get hold of powdered gelatine its a bit more more expensive but I noticed it doesn't smell as awful and dissolves more easily, it was added to the keg and I'm waiting to see the results.
If you got it from the Malt Miller I can vouch for how good it is. Make sure you use preboiled water circa 65c.
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Re: Gelatin

Post by Phoenix » Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:59 pm

It was Dr Oetker leaf gelatin raided from the baking ingredients cupboard, I'm sure she'll never find out.
The packets are 13g 8 leaves. I used 4. On the basis 4 sets a pint of liquid, the same as a packet of powdered gelatin would.
The Malt Miller's sheets are 100g packets 10 sheets each 10g. I wonder if half a sheet would be sufficient.

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