Duvel triple hop citra

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Duvel triple hop citra

Post by sbond10 » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:04 pm

Had this beer last night and i was blown away by how good it tastes more like a beer with mosiac it was lovely n juicey.
Wonder if anyone has seen a recipe or got any pointers other than a shed load of citra

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Re: Duvel triple hop citra

Post by Mashman » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:15 pm

Not got a recipe but it is a cracking beer.
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Re: Duvel triple hop citra

Post by MTW » Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:12 pm

I've made a Belgian golden strong that I think would have been a decent base beer for such a brew, which was just Pilsner with a touch of wheat and no more than 10% sugar, hopped with Perle, though you could hop it up with Citra as you like. WLP550 can be kept a touch less fruity than 530 in my moderate experience, at the cooler end for a day or two (max 17C with a good pitch). That beer sat somewhere between Duvel and a full-on, phenolic abbey-bomb. You could even try something as tame as S-33 to avoid the high end esters, if you're not going for a complete clone. I wouldn't go mad with the OG, as I tend to fine these yeasts are prone to get fruity (not in a Citra way) as it rises, at least without commercial level controls of oxygen, yeast counts etc etc.

[The DTHs have never done it for me, with a combination of lovely Belgian yeast flavours and lovely citrussy hops, which together taste a bit soapy. I've tried each one for the last few years (not the citra yet) and they just leave me wanting either a straight Belgian or a straight hop bomp; normally the former. Sorry!]
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Re: Duvel triple hop citra

Post by Sadfield » Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:34 am

Prabably enough info in these two pages. I would up the clone recipe to 9.5% abv and add some Citra late in the boil to raise the IBUs to 40, and then dryhop with citra in the FV. According to mrmalty.com wlp570/wy1388 is the Duvel Moorgat strain.

http://www.duvel.com/en/the-beer/duvel-tripel-hop

https://byo.com/wheat-beer/item/3028-duvel-clone

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Re: Duvel triple hop citra

Post by MTW » Mon Nov 06, 2017 8:48 am

Should have said, I didn't recommend the wlp570 because I've read very mixed reviews of it in homebrew use. Same goes for bottle culturing. They use two strains but if I recall correctly, they're not pitched at the same time. Can't speak from experience there though.
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Re: Duvel triple hop citra

Post by sbond10 » Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:26 pm

What is a dosage amount of corn sugar ?

What do we all think to 40g in boil then 60g dry hop.

It didnt really have a belguim yeast character no banana flavours thats for sure.

Wondering if i could get away using something like cml belgian dry yeast strain and ferment low at 18c

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Re: Duvel triple hop citra

Post by Sadfield » Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:18 pm

sbond10 wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:26 pm
What do we all think to 40g in boil then 60g dry hop.
Sounds good. A rough calculation with Citra being around 14%AA, if I was brewing it I'd do 12g at 15 minutes to give the extra 10 IBUs the Triple Hop version has over normal Duvel, 28g at flameout and then 60 dry hop.

I haven't used the CML yeast, but I'd definitely follow your plan to use it cooler.

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Re: Duvel triple hop citra

Post by sbond10 » Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:25 am

So where going for
5500kg of pale malt
240 g carapils
770g corn sugar in the kettle (no idea what this )
300g corn sugar (a dosage amount when does this go in)

Hops
Styrian bobek 34g at 60 mins
Sazz. 27g at 15
Citra. 12 at 15
Sazz 21 at 0
Citra 28g at 0

Citra 60g dry hop

Ferment at 18 with cross my loff brewery belgian strain

Might have to run this through a brewing calc

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Re: Duvel triple hop citra

Post by Sadfield » Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:12 am

sbond10 wrote:So where going for
5500kg of pale malt
240 g carapils
770g corn sugar in the kettle (no idea what this )
300g corn sugar (a dosage amount when does this go in)

Hops
Styrian bobek 34g at 60 mins
Sazz. 27g at 15
Citra. 12 at 15
Sazz 21 at 0
Citra 28g at 0

Citra 60g dry hop

Ferment at 18 with cross my loff brewery belgian strain

Might have to run this through a brewing calc
It looks like the recipe requires a dosage of both sugar and yeast nutrient added at the start of secondary. I assume this is to take some of the more basic sugars out of initial fermentation and to help the yeast along in secondary. I would add them when you transfer.

https://byo.com/malt/item/1882-fermenti ... techniques



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Re: Duvel triple hop citra

Post by sbond10 » Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:08 am

Pwoar bit work ahead for me then

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