Your favourite Graham Wheeler recipe...

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Re: Your favourite Graham Wheeler recipe...

Post by Brewedout » Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:20 am

ben034 wrote:
BarnsleyBrewer wrote:
Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:53 am
Apparently from Dorchester County Library.
Also noticed it was printed in the USA.
Just picked up a copy for £4.44 from Abe Books with shipping. They have 1 more apparently. Looking forward to getting this.
That's a good price. It's got lots of interesting recipes, the trouble will be deciding on which to brew...

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Re: Your favourite Graham Wheeler recipe...

Post by Brewedout » Tue Feb 26, 2019 9:10 pm

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Sat Feb 09, 2019 1:29 am
I've brewed the Nussdorf St Thomas or variations of a few times now, I think I might even be guilty of the brew Demig mentioned.
Having brewed it with both European and British versions of Vienna and Munich I prefer the versions with European malts, I've used Ireks and Weyermann with good results, there's a much richer flavour to them. The trouble with this is the beer then seems underbittered so I now aim for 40 IBU. Weyermann CaraMunich II is good for the Crystal addition and I use Crossmyloof Kolsch Yeast, fermented at 15c.
Thanks for this info! Which Hallertau hops did you use? The Hallertau blanc10.2% / mittlefruh 4%/ hersbrucker 2.2%

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Re: Your favourite Graham Wheeler recipe...

Post by keith1664 » Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:12 pm

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Re: Your favourite Graham Wheeler recipe...

Post by ben034 » Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:21 pm

Out of the two Altbier recipes would you make the Nussdorf At Thomas or the Zum Uerige Alt? Both sound nice but I'm leaning towards the Zum Uerige for a bit of extra bitterness.

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Re: Your favourite Graham Wheeler recipe...

Post by keith1664 » Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:04 am

ben034 wrote:Out of the two Altbier recipes would you make the Nussdorf At Thomas or the Zum Uerige Alt? Both sound nice but I'm leaning towards the Zum Uerige for a bit of extra bitterness.
I’ve not made the Zum Uerige but did find the Nussdorf a bit over malty, in subsequent versions I’ve upped the hops more to my taste.


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Re: Your favourite Graham Wheeler recipe...

Post by FULLERS » Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:59 am

Dont you find that a lot of the recipes in Grahams book basically the same with just a few gms of say a particular malt basically only the difference, I do like most of the recipes but substitute the sugar for extra malt.

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Re: Your favourite Graham Wheeler recipe...

Post by ben034 » Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:02 pm

FULLERS wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:59 am
Dont you find that a lot of the recipes in Grahams book basically the same with just a few gms of say a particular malt basically only the difference, I do like most of the recipes but substitute the sugar for extra malt.
That's certainly true for the British beers book. Fundamentally, a lot of bitters or milds have very similar grain bills and the difference between them is usually the yeast used. I still find the British beer book useful as a guide and for inspiration but you do need to do a bit of research on yeast before diving in (if you're aiming to get close to the original - otherwise you can play around).

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Re: Your favourite Graham Wheeler recipe...

Post by Kingfisher4 » Wed Sep 30, 2020 8:23 pm

keith1664 wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 1:29 am
I've brewed the Nussdorf St Thomas or variations of a few times now, I think I might even be guilty of the brew Demig mentioned.
Having brewed it with both European and British versions of Vienna and Munich I prefer the versions with European malts, I've used Ireks and Weyermann with good results, there's a much richer flavour to them. The trouble with this is the beer then seems underbittered so I now aim for 40 IBU. Weyermann CaraMunich II is good for the Crystal addition and I use Crossmyloof Kolsch Yeast, fermented at 15c.
Thanks for the intro to this; I finally got round to brewing this about 3 months ago and enjoyed the complex flavours. It did taste a little unbalanced for my palette (intensely malty), never having tried an Altbier before, who am I to know??!! A friend who'd lived in the appropriate region in Germany for a couple of years loved it and found it very true to style.

As with a couple of other CML yeasts I have found the Kolsch has continued to very slowly ferment in my bottles ( not kegging yet and not likely to imminently) so it's over carbonated now.

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