Wheat malt substitute

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Wheat malt substitute

Post by MashBag » Sat Oct 14, 2023 6:31 am

Has anyone replaced wheat malt with raw unprocessed wheat.

I have wheat to hand, but spend stooput money for malted wheat, which I use very little of (12.5%).

Thoughts? Tips? Warnings?
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Re: Wheat malt substitute

Post by timstaley » Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:36 pm

Plain flour and use a smaller percentage
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Re: Wheat malt substitute

Post by IPA » Sun Oct 15, 2023 7:27 am

timstaley wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:36 pm
 Plain flour and use a smaller percentage
Randy Mosher recommended this for those who have a problem making cloudy beer =D> =D>
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Re: Wheat malt substitute

Post by MashBag » Sun Oct 15, 2023 9:07 am

Yes indeed. Cloudy was not really what I was after.

Test is on. Crushed wheat same weight. Protein rest applied. Let's see. I am expecting a flavour boost.
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Re: Wheat malt substitute

Post by timstaley » Sun Oct 15, 2023 5:48 pm

Plain flour to make beer cloudy is in the last 10 minutes of the boil
What I was recommending is using flour in the mash as normal
No difference to using wheat really
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Re: Wheat malt substitute

Post by MashBag » Mon Oct 16, 2023 7:55 am

Sorry missed that point. Have you tried this?
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Re: Wheat malt substitute

Post by Eric » Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:28 am

timstaley wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 15, 2023 5:48 pm
 Plain flour to make beer cloudy is in the last 10 minutes of the boil
What I was recommending is using flour in the mash as normal
No difference to using wheat really
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Re: Wheat malt substitute

Post by MashBag » Mon Oct 16, 2023 4:00 pm

Good read. Thank you. I will report back.
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Re: Wheat malt substitute

Post by timstaley » Mon Oct 16, 2023 4:13 pm

Yes often with no adverse effects
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Re: Wheat malt substitute

Post by drjim » Mon Oct 16, 2023 6:03 pm

Interesting - flour is also very cheap.
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Re: Wheat malt substitute

Post by LeeH » Thu Oct 19, 2023 7:58 pm

I had a pint from the local micro that was not a NEIPA but had the colour of one.

Do you think they are using just plain flour?

Most of my NEIPAs drop perfectly bright too quickly!
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Re: Wheat malt substitute

Post by IPA » Fri Oct 20, 2023 11:27 am

LeeH wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 19, 2023 7:58 pm
 I had a pint from the local micro that was not a NEIPA but had the colour of one.

Do you think they are using just plain flour?

Most of my NEIPAs drop perfectly bright too quickly!
You want cloudy beer [-X

Randy Mosher tells you how.
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Re: Wheat malt substitute

Post by MashBag » Mon Oct 23, 2023 7:07 am

Quick update.
Ran the same recipe, with farm gate milling wheat. Graded & ground, adding 500g

In the fv, a lot more protein methinks. Foamy dirty head, and some large jelly babies.

Tasting at bottling (day 7): Hmm. Not bad. Slightly more wheaty earth flavour like a raw beer. Yikes I hope that passes 😁
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