35 litre Sodastream cylinders - discontinuing.

[boingy]

So, if I've got this straight, NOBODY (worldwide) markets an adapter to connect the "world-standard" Sodastream 60 bottles to anything useful?

Yep, I believe that to be the case (unless you consider connecting a sodastream cylinder to a sodastream machine to be useful...). I suspect there just is not a big enough demand to justify the engineering costs. Many home brewers use S30 cylinders or sparklet bulbs. At the other end of the scale you have folk using pub cylinders. The bit in the middle is probably not a very large market at all.

is there some way of doing it with an external valve?

Not that I know of. The problem will be getting something that mates with the cylinder. You'd probably need to dismantle or modify a sodastream unit to get your hands on suitable parts.

[Kev888]

You'd probably need to dismantle or modify a sodastream unit to get your hands on suitable parts.

I was thinking that too - unless you can get 'spares' for the soda streams and just buy the fitting. With the older models soda streams were a regular fixture at boot sales, maybe after a bit the new fit models will be popping up as well, and on freecycle etc too.

Cheers
kev

[boingy]

I would expect the SS machines to be made down to a cost so you might find that the coupling to the cylinder is moulded into the plastic body of the machine which would make it hard to use separately.

And I'm surprised Sodastream are still going. Who is buying the machines???

[macca]

There's the adaptor for the new 60l sodastream bottles with the new style thread:
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[boingy]

Worth mentioning that Sodastream will still supply 35 litre gas by mail order:

http://www.sodastream.co.uk/gbretail/pr ... 9990000001

A refill is a fiver but you have to make an additional deposit of £8 which is refunded when you return an empty cylinder.
Given that most HB shops will no longer send full gas cylinders by post I'm not sure how SS can...

And I suspect it's not a good idea to go alerting SodaStream to the other uses we find for their cylinders. It will just give them an incentive to try to stop us.

[crafty john]

I would expect the SS machines to be made down to a cost so you might find that the coupling to the cylinder is moulded into the plastic body of the machine which would make it hard to use separately.

And I'm surprised Sodastream are still going. Who is buying the machines???

I bought one a couple of years ago when they where doing a promotion in Comet, I had just seen Heston Blumenthal making sparkling wine with one, it works a treat and SWMBO loves it.

[Deebee]

So, if I've got this straight, NOBODY (worldwide) markets an adapter to connect the "world-standard" Sodastream 60 bottles to anything useful?

Or is there some way of doing it with an external valve?

Not quite .

one guy here in Norway does them.

http://vinsenteret.no/files/thumb3/100007.jpg

these fit the new cylinders and have a standard thread for most manometres.

think they can be found in Germany too as it happens.

[Dr. Dextrin]

Thought I'd mention that I've just got a refill for a 35 litre Sodastream cylinder from Robert Dyas (in Oxford). It was £3.99 I think, which is pretty good value considering the other options available (and RD seem to have outlets in most large towns these days). It's probably worth phoning first, though, as I've heard not all stores have them.

However, they are also handing out a note saying these refills won't be available after 31st March because of Sodastream. I'm not sure how much to believe this as we've heard it several time before, but I guess it means Robert Dyas won't be stocking them in future, so don't delay...

[Hogarth]

Thanks for that, Dr D. For years I've been relying on Robert Dyas for my 35 litre's worth of CO2. Looks like I'll have to go and get that last refill.

And I'm surprised Sodastream are still going. Who is buying the machines???

Au contraire, a Sodastream was the must-have gift this Christmas. I gave my sister one, and they're in all the shops -- John Lewis, Lakeland, Homebase.

I'm quite tempted by the German fitting that Macca links to. The disadvantage of the widget world adaptor was that it severely regulated the gas, so you couldn't use the sodastream cylinder to gas up a bottle of water. It'd be quite nice to fit a variable regulator instead.

[Dr. Dextrin]

Yes, I'm tempted by the German adaptor too (or maybe the cheaper one with the different outlet thread). However, I can't quite understand how the gas is released from the cylinder as there's a valve that needs depressing to let it come out. Does the adaptor have some sort of pin built in to open the valve maybe?

Does anybody know?

[Deebee]

Yes, I'm tempted by the German adaptor too (or maybe the cheaper one with the different outlet thread). However, I can't quite understand how the gas is released from the cylinder as there's a valve that needs depressing to let it come out. Does the adaptor have some sort of pin built in to open the valve maybe?

Does anybody know?

Yes.
The norwegian one i have screws directly into the regulator. Open the regulator and the gas comes.
Worth noting this though, when i test fitted the adaptor on am almost empty cylinder the gas came out as soon as i tightened down the thread.
It means that the fitting between the adaptor and regulator has to be 100% else you get a trickle leak and the cylinder will empty itself over time.

[Dr. Dextrin]

Thanks Deebee. So the regulator is definitely needed and no chance of using it in an injection system.That's sort of what I'd assumed, but good to have it confirmed.

[compton]

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[Deebee]

guys,
I think you should start a thread in the for sale forum. No links but pictures and info.
As members of the forums a discount would always be appreciated too by most.
I have am adaptor that i think fits my existing regulator, but if it doesnt then i know where you åre:-)

[alix101]

So, if I've got this straight, NOBODY (worldwide) markets an adapter to connect the "world-standard" Sodastream 60 bottles to anything useful?

Or is there some way of doing it with an external valve?

If I can find it I will post a link , there is an adaptor for the new bottles but I belive its, very expensive and it comes from germany.