An electronic hydrometer I'm working on

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Re: An electronic hydrometer I'm working on

Post by Dave S » Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:01 pm

If you are using a conventional hydrometer with sensors attached, how do you correct for the extra weight causing the hydrometer to sink further?
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Re: An electronic hydrometer I'm working on

Post by chris2012 » Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:05 pm

That's a good point, I was just going to calibrate for that in software.

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Re: An electronic hydrometer I'm working on

Post by orlando » Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:38 pm

What about setmash's post hasn't that product "shot your Fox?"
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Re: An electronic hydrometer I'm working on

Post by chris2012 » Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:40 pm

Not really, I like to DIY electronic stuff, I wouldn't mind comparing accuracy too though, with theirs.

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Re: An electronic hydrometer I'm working on

Post by Fil » Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:06 pm

nice one . Not for me , too many extra bits in the beer. you could set it up in a smaller vessel with wort at the start of a fermentation and stick it next to the actual brew to give an indication of whats going on in the bulk without any intrusion?
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Re: An electronic hydrometer I'm working on

Post by chris2012 » Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:09 pm

Yup Fil, that'd definitely be possible.

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Re: An electronic hydrometer I'm working on

Post by orlando » Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:20 pm

Fil wrote: you could set it up in a smaller vessel with wort at the start of a fermentation and stick it next to the actual brew to give an indication of whats going on in the bulk without any intrusion?
:-k Would it be exactly the same?
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Re: An electronic hydrometer I'm working on

Post by Fil » Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:33 pm

no temps will differ even in a closed space things like thermal mass and yeast activity will have effect on it but any measurements taken are approximations, this would be just one more step removed, and therfore be no more than an indication.... experimentation would be the only way to confirm how good an approximation it provides.. there may be a strong correlation, which could help predict bulk gravity based on the separate sample. ie the bulk is generaly 2 days ahead?

but something like an unexpected draught blowing over the sample could easily scupper it..
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Re: An electronic hydrometer I'm working on

Post by floydmeddler » Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:02 pm

Have often daydreamed about this. Great to see it coming into reality!

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Re: An electronic hydrometer I'm working on

Post by Highlander » Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:48 pm

How much accuracy can you get with hall sensors?
Could you paint the hydrometer so it is opaque and use some an optical sensor array that would trip as it rose.
The mechanical issues around gas bubbles and yeast deposits will be a tough one to get around.

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Re: An electronic hydrometer I'm working on

Post by chris2012 » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:17 pm

I'm not certain how much accuracy i'll get yet, hopefully i'll find out this weekend.

Yeah I've also thought about using an image sensor from a scanner and placing a light on top of the hydrometer, and measuring
the SG from that.

Yeah i'll have to see how badly they effect it in practice.

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Re: An electronic hydrometer I'm working on

Post by barneey » Sun Apr 27, 2014 11:16 am

Any update on the idea?
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Re: An electronic hydrometer I'm working on

Post by irv » Sun Apr 27, 2014 1:55 pm

Do you think you are engineering a solution for a problem that doesn't really exist?

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Re: An electronic hydrometer I'm working on

Post by orlando » Sun Apr 27, 2014 1:56 pm

irv wrote:Do you think you are engineering a solution for a problem that doesn't really exist?
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Re: An electronic hydrometer I'm working on

Post by Dave S » Sun Apr 27, 2014 2:49 pm

orlando wrote:
irv wrote:Do you think you are engineering a solution for a problem that doesn't really exist?
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