23 litre cornie kegs, now sensibly priced??

[froggi]

Orlando, how does the weight compare to the standard cornie??
Obviously the size is different so that's a factor (but in general is what I'm getting at) and the fact that a standard cornie usually comes with the rubber compound head and base.
Just a rough way of comparing the two.

[Belter]

Are they listed as 304 or 316? If so you'll be fine. Can't comment on the welds. Lower pressure is irrelevant. If they can go to 30psi you can force carb. What dies it say they go up to?

Looks like a good buy to me. Theres not much chance if you needing a new lid any time soon.

Edit: just read 40psi. No problems there.

[orlando]

Orlando, how does the weight compare to the standard cornie??
Obviously the size is different so that's a factor (but in general is what I'm getting at) and the fact that a standard cornie usually comes with the rubber compound head and base.
Just a rough way of comparing the two.

I don't know. I've a feeling there was something on the cardboard carton they came in suggesting circa 4.5k but I will weigh one today and report back. The rubberising of the standard cornie is probably not of any great value to the home brewer because they aren't used in the same way as the original and so do not have to be protected in the same way.

[AceMcAce]

So.....shiny!

[orlando]

So.....shiny!

There's a T_Shirt for it.

[AceMcAce]

So.....shiny!

There's a T_Shirt for it.

Please tell me you wear that every brewday

[orlando]

So.....shiny!

There's a T_Shirt for it.

Please tell me you wear that every brewday

Don't have the arms for it, but I do wear these: Spot the wort Not nuch fun if it finds its way into the holes.

[darkonnis]

Before we start a panic, where does it say they're crap steel? I think lots of people need to go have a look at brewery kegs and even some cornies as the welding quality isn't too far a shout from whats here.

If it's shit steel, then there isn't actually anything you can do except return them as they are NOT fit for purpose, but that said theres no sign of that.

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[far9410]

Before we start a panic, where does it say they're crap steel? I think lots of people need to go have a look at brewery kegs and even some cornies as the welding quality isn't too far a shout from whats here.

If it's shit steel, then there isn't actually anything you can do except return them as they are NOT fit for purpose, but that said theres no sign of that.

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You're right, it doesn't say they are crap, and hopefully they are ok, but i work in the fire protection industry and ever since the manufacturing of extinguishers has been transferred to china the quality has been very poor, in some cases cylinders failing in less than a year.whereas prior to this the average life was 20 years. Only time will tell.

[orlando]

I'm far from an expert so have no idea about the quality of the steel, I have now asked, but they appear pretty substantial. I weighed one this morning and it is a shade under 4.2 kg, remember this is just the steel as it is not rubberised.

Another benefit is the larger lid allows me to get my whole arm in, which if it was slightly longer means I can clean almost to the bottom, so short of putting beer in and gassing up they are so far looking as if they might be just what I'm after.

The reply from the Home Brew shop to the grade of steel is 304, they also tell me they are now out of them but expect more in May, so maybe a few more have been sold recently, for some reason .

[darkonnis]

I'm glad that it looks like its worked out mate you had chance to use one yet?
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[troutie]

I have a couple of these kegs and was happily surprised how good they looked

Lids seal nice and easy and the ball lock connectors click on ok
first brew going in one on sunday
would like a rubber boot on the bottom to protect from the concrete garage floor

[orlando]

I'm glad that it looks like its worked out mate you had chance to use one yet?
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I've not put a brew in one yet, I still need to secure a freezer for my keezer plans, but I have had a play with one and my gas management board so like troutie can see they seal well. No problem with fixing gas and beer lines to them and very pleased to find that what I first of all thought would be a problem, lids are larger than a standard cornie, means I can get my whole arm in to clean the inside properly. So far then all pluses and no down side, final hurdle will be getting a brew in there and seeing what its like keeping a seal at low pressure as I don't like over carbonated beer. It may mean swapping to the softer red silicone lid seals from the States but even if it does, this is something a lot of standard cornie users do. Troutie mentions the lack of a rubberised base which for him is a problem on his concrete floor but as I will be using mine in the keezer even this isn't a problem.

The overwhelming benefit is going to be putting a full brew length in, so on with the mash .

[barneey]

Could you not make a boot for the keg, with one of orlando`s shoes?

[jonnyt]

I'm thinking about these but am concerned that the pressure rating is 40 PSI whereas Cornies are rated above 130 PSI so a massive difference.

i.e. Is the stainless thinner and thus less robust?