Making a Hopstopper

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Making a Hopstopper

Post by Garth » Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:51 pm

If anyone is having problems with blocked manifolds or slow run off, or they want to use pellets in their boiler these are ideal. Aleman originally pointed me in the direction of his pictures. I made an all stainless on for my boiler, not everyone wants stainless so here's a one using copper pipe. This is probably the cheapest way of making one of these. It doesn't use any compression fittings which can heighten the pipe, with the soldered copper pipe it is as low as it can be. The difference with run off is amazing, and it should leave very little wort in the boiler as long as you use a tube on the boiler tap to get a siphon effect. I knocked this up in about 10 mins while the tea was cooking, it needs very few bits.

The only things I had to buy was the mesh from http://www.inoxia.co.uk, I bought two 30cmx30cm pieces of the #30 mesh, about a tenner.

Also two M14 stainless washers from http://www.a2stainless.co.uk, these fit snugly round a 15mm pipe.

You'll also need a very small length of 15mm pipe, a length of 15mm pipe long enough to go from the middle of your boiler to your tap, a 90 bend, a T piece, and a nut and olive of suitable size to attach onto the back of your boiler tap.

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Use a plate or fermenter to draw a circle on one sheet, on the other sheet use something to draw a slightly smaller circle, about 1.5 cm smaller all the way round.
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Cut them both out, a decent pair of scissors do the job, watch the ends of the mesh, it's very sharp and it draws blood really easy.
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Fold the larger of the pieces of mesh in half then half again, snip a very small quarter circle off the end, when unfolded it will give a hole for the 15mm pipe to go through and it'll be in the middle of the mesh. If it's too small fold it back up and snip a tiny bit more off.
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Solder the small piece of pipe into the 90 bend the put a washer on, use flux to help the solder flow.
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Push the pipe through the hole in the larger mesh.
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Turn the mesh over, put the other washer on the small piece of pipe, then the T piece, push it as tight as it'll go together then solder this.
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Now put the smaller piece of mesh over the T piece. Start folding the larger piece over the smaller bit.
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When you've gone all the way round crimp it flat with a pair of pliers.
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Then fold it again over itself, again crimping it tight all the way round.
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It may not look totally circular, it's quite difficult to get it perfect but it won't make any difference to the performance. Some folk have sewn theirs with strands of mesh taken from the edge, I tried this, had blood all over and found it unnecessary. Mine is made exactly the same way and hasn't budged in over 30 AGs.
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Re: Making a Hopstopper

Post by Scooby » Tue Feb 17, 2009 11:15 pm

Excellent Garth 8)

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Re: Making a Hopstopper

Post by Damfoose » Tue Feb 17, 2009 11:26 pm

Fantastic wright up and excellent pic Garth makes it much easier to understand how to make. =D>

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Re: Making a Hopstopper

Post by Parp » Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:20 pm

Excellent.

And these work with 100% pellet, no leaf?

Now to learn how to solder!

And buy a blowtorch, an some flame retardant underpants ( Viz reference :) )

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Re: Making a Hopstopper

Post by Aleman » Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:38 pm

If you are going for All pellet you might want to consider #40 or #60 mesh instead of #30

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Re: Making a Hopstopper

Post by AlexCricket » Thu Feb 19, 2009 3:09 pm

Parp

You raise a make a good point - I am a very novice brewer - but I have a suggestion. You can get (screwfix supply) 'push-fit' copper connectors which are very easy to use and rated for mains - this might help those who can't solder - no special tools required.

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Re: Making a Hopstopper

Post by Parp » Thu Feb 19, 2009 3:28 pm

Excellent - I'll hunt them down when I'm next in B & Q or wherever.

I've yet to see if my "ball valve to H+G manifold" plumbing exploits hold water under a boil :)

I'd rather fancied getting a twelve quid blow-torch and just going for it.
I probably would blow myself up though! :oops:

Cheers

KC

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Re: Making a Hopstopper

Post by Scooby » Thu Feb 19, 2009 3:34 pm

Always handy to have even if you only use it to make Creme Brulee :lol:

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Re: Making a Hopstopper

Post by Parp » Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:21 pm

Aye, was thinking that myself!

Hehe! :D

Always reminds me of the 'band' bloke from The League Of Gentlemen too - great show!

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Re: Making a Hopstopper

Post by Garth » Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:44 pm

yeah, I reckon those 'easy plumb' fittings would work well, and ideal for anyone without a blow torch

I'll make a small edit by saying the T piece would be better if it was a solder ring type, as it's quite difficult to get the solder in between the T piece and the underneath M14 washer, it needs to be tight to keep the mesh in place and if the solder was already there it would help

probably doing an all pellet brew on Saturday, so although I've used pellets a lot all the previous brews have had a very small amount of leaf in, so we'll see how this works, pellet bits in the fv have never bothered me anyway, they settle out with the gunk at the bottom.

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Re: Making a Hopstopper

Post by Parp » Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:07 pm

pellet bits in the fv have never bothered me anyway, they settle out with the gunk at the bottom
Just a thought ;

Imagine taking the manifold off my boiler completely and just being left withe a ball valve/tank connector setup.

Would a 100% hop pellet brew work?
Possibly whirlpooling with some sort of post-boiler sieving/mesh-bag action.

Would enough settle right to the bottom to avoid transference - also, how much hop bits would be considered acceptable in the FV?

It'd probs transfer too much trub too.

Ah well, just a thought.

It's a pity Cafetiere's don't come in stainless steel with 25/33/50+ litre capacities! :lol:

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Re: Making a Hopstopper

Post by Garth » Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:13 pm

err, I wouldn't risk it, a bit trub is good in you fv but I imagine doing that you'll get the lot in or a nice blockage

honestly, these strainers are the boyo, mine hasn't come near to blocking and the run off is like a racehorse taking a piss.

you can make one of these for about £12, or drive down the A1 and I'll knock you one together in 15 mins

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Re: Making a Hopstopper

Post by Parp » Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:27 pm

or drive down the A1 and I'll knock you one together in 15 mins
A kind offer :)

I'd like to give it a go for the sense of achievement.
And I sold the car a year ago and havent looked back.
Newcastle is an easy walk, and work is two easy buses.

I'm brewing tomorrow, but I'm going to use part leaf part pellet.

And fingers crossed for my ball valve job holding out :)

I might boil a bit of water tonight to check it - better safe than sorry.

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Re: Making a Hopstopper

Post by Garth » Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:25 pm

go for it Parp, they are well easy to make, and you'll not look back

well done for giving up the car, due to the start time of my job I couldn't do it myself but it's a nice thought, no MOT, no tax, insurance, repairs spare parts and services (even though I do them myself), oh and fuel, hell I could save a fortune...... :D

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Re: Making a Hopstopper

Post by edit1now » Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:58 pm

Wonderful "make", Garth. I might do one for my forthcoming shiny boiler (got to cut a hole in another 14-gallon cask...)

Thanks!

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