Kettle element question.

[196osh]

Would it be easier to use the element from a corded kettle than a non corded kettle?

I was thinking it could mean potentially less chance of a disaster...

[farmhousekeg]

I suppose if you can find kettles with the "old style" corded connections with an external shroud, they will be ideal but all the cheapo kettles I have ever seen are of the non corded variety. I think you can effectively shield the wiring when using cannibalised kettle elements from cordless kettles. There are plenty of thread on here showing how to do it.

[196osh]

I suppose if you can find kettles with the "old style" corded connections with an external shroud, they will be ideal but all the cheapo kettles I have ever seen are of the non corded variety. I think you can effectively shield the wiring when using cannibalised kettle elements from cordless kettles. There are plenty of thread on here showing how to do it.

http://www.wigishop.co.uk/epages/es1157 ... cale=en_GB

There is a corded kettle, not as cheap as an asda number, but I am not that confident about the whole open wiring neither I am.

Electrics are not my strong point...

[196osh]

I could get 2 corded 2.2KW ketles from amazon for 20quid ish, which is roughy double what it would cost for a cheapo cordless kettle

[farmhousekeg]

http://www.wigishop.co.uk/epages/es1157 ... cale=en_GB

There is a corded kettle, not as cheap as an asda number, but I am not that confident about the whole open wiring neither I am.

Electrics are not my strong point...

I don't think that one will be any better than an ASDA kettle. The element connections are shrouded on the kettle but when you take this apart your will still have the same "innards" as an ASDA cheapo. I assumed that 196osh meant something more like a kettle with the type of old fashioned element found on H&G boilers. This one has an external shroud. Here's a link to the H&G element:

http://www.hopandgrape.co.uk/catalog/de ... HA20225648

Just cos the kettle is sold as "corded" doesn't mean that the electrics will then be shrouded when you rip out the element to fit on a homebrew boiler.

[196osh]

http://www.wigishop.co.uk/epages/es1157 ... cale=en_GB

There is a corded kettle, not as cheap as an asda number, but I am not that confident about the whole open wiring neither I am.

Electrics are not my strong point...

I don't think that one will be any better than an ASDA kettle. The element connections are shrouded on the kettle but when you take this apart your will still have the same "innards" as an ASDA cheapo. I assumed that 196osh meant something more like a kettle with the type of old fashioned element found on H&G boilers. This one has an external shroud. Here's a link to the H&G element:

http://www.hopandgrape.co.uk/catalog/de ... HA20225648

Just cos the kettle is sold as "corded" doesn't mean that the electrics will then be shrouded when you rip out the element to fit on a homebrew boiler.

Ahh I understand, so even if I did canabalise those sorts of kettles I would end up with the same parts as f I took apart an ASDA kettle?

[farmhousekeg]

Yip!

But don't be too afraid of it - as I said there's lots of guidance on here. I was a bit wary but I have since used a cheapo to make an HLT without any problems. Just take time to research the technique and get the correct sized drill bit. Then find something you can use to make a good cover for the externals.

Of course if you feel totally incompetent or just not comfortable with the idea, then leave it alone - better safe that sorry when it comes to electrics and water!

[196osh]

Yip!

But don't be too afraid of it - as I said there's lots of guidance on here. I was a bit wary but I have since used a cheapo to make an HLT without any problems. Just take time to research the technique and get the correct sized drill bit. Then find something you can use to make a good cover for the externals.

Of course if you feel totally incompetent or just not comfortable with the idea, then leave it alone - better safe that sorry when it comes to electrics and water!

Yeah, might have to employ my dad to get invloved. He generally is much better at the whole electrical buisness than I am.

I was looking at this, http://www.screwfix.com/prods/43913/Plu ... er%2011%22.

Looks like it should last longer than a kettle element and its obviously more powerful.

I was told that Immersion elements were more difficult to work with though, I would be thinking about putting it in the 10 gallon H&G bucket.

[farmhousekeg]

Probably best to start a new thread to ask about immersion heater elements - they are a whole different "kettle" of fish - excuse the pun!

[brewsters millionths]

this does come with a cord though.
with the price difference of buying one separately?

[mickoh]

Don't be put off

I was really worried about doing this - there was just something about my diy electrical skills and water that made me worried

It is as easy as it looks in the guides on here

and if you are worried about leads then homebase sell the correct rated cords for corded kettles for 3.99

[farmhousekeg]

this does come with a cord though.

Yes that's true - if you buy a corded kettle, even though the element is just the same as in a cordless cheapo, you WILL have a kettle cord which will save you a few quid compared to buying a cordless one as you would then have to buy the cord. Don't be tempted to use a PC lead as the plugs on these are not rated to withstand the heat generated by running the power to feed a kettle element.

[crow_flies]

you could also try asking on your local freecycle. i did that and was given 4 old style kettles and 3 leads!

/CF