CO2 gas cylinder help

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CO2 gas cylinder help

Post by chris2012 » Thu Sep 10, 2015 2:55 pm

At first I thought my CO2 gas cylinder had leaked, but now I'm pretty sure it hasn't.

I poured boiling water on the tank and could see it condensate showing it's still full, and it weighs a tonne.

But no gas seems to come out when the valve is turned to open

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However if i push the silver bit, with a screwdriver, gas comes out.

Anyone got any ideas?


Edit: So i just checked the weight and it's around 30kg which is what is stamped onto the cylinder, which i presume is the empty weight.

So I guess it's probably leaked :(

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Re: CO2 gas cylinder help

Post by Wonkydonkey » Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:30 pm

Maybe try contact the comp that you got it from. It's hard to say from your discription if it's full or empty.and I don't know what the weights stamped on it mean. Unless it says tare or gross.

The gas would be liquid inside, so maybe a shake will help you decide, or a Google of the stamp markings on a gas cylinder.

Hope this helps. :?
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Re: CO2 gas cylinder help

Post by chris2012 » Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:39 pm

Cheers, I just noticed it says EW, before the weight, which I'm guessing probably means Empty Weight

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Re: CO2 gas cylinder help

Post by Soton » Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:36 pm

If you replace it with a new one try weighing it before you use it, if it's a 6.5kg gas bottle that refers to the weight of the gas inside, so keep a note of the total weight of the new unused bottle, that way if you ever need to know how much gas you have used all you then need to do is re-weight it and the difference will be the gas used

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Re: CO2 gas cylinder help

Post by Dads_Ale » Fri Sep 11, 2015 2:20 pm

I would think the silver bit in the middle is a safety valve that need to be depressed to allow gas to flow, therefore your connection will need to depress this valve. Checked my spare gas bottle and it does not have this valve.
I would Check with the supplier.

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Re: CO2 gas cylinder help

Post by chris2012 » Fri Sep 11, 2015 3:29 pm

I ended up getting it re-filled to day :)

It now weighs around 40kg up from 30kg, I also found an o-ring, i've added on the regulator fitting, which
will hopefully help.

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Re: CO2 gas cylinder help

Post by drunken.bastard » Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:20 pm

Good day lads. Norwegian homebrewer here. I've come across this forum many times through google and I finally decided to sign up today as I've got some questions to ask regarding hand pumps... But that's not why I reply in this thread.

I work with gas and if that cylinder you've got there is anything like what we have over here, the little silver bit you pushed inside the valve(?) - sorry I don't know the technical terms in English :) is a little gadget that's placed there to retain a tiny bit of pressure in the cylinder when it's empty so that if it's left open, moisture or water etc. can't get into the gas cylinder. This is so it won't rust or get filthy in the inside.

It can probably be removed with a tiny socket wrench, but there's no need to as you'll be able to use it as is.

co2 is filled by weight in liquid form so you can check how much you have left in the cylinder by weighing it as someone else suggested earlier. The weight of the cylinder empty and full should be stamped in somewhere on the cylinder. TARE weight is empty and GROSS is of course full. It often also says how many KGs of co2 it should contain full.

It was probably that missing o-ring you found that made it leak. Sometimes you wont even hear it and it'll be empty the next day. What you could do is to take a spray bottle with star san in it, shake it up, and spray it all over the places you think it could be leaking. If there's a leak there will be bubbles forming around that area.

Hope this helps :D

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Re: CO2 gas cylinder help

Post by chris2012 » Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:46 pm

Welcome to the forum!

And cheers for that reply, that explanation makes perfect sense!

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