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Re: Fermenters rated/compared

Post by Jocky » Fri Apr 23, 2021 7:04 am

Here you go - it’s a short way down the page:
https://www.samuelsmithsbrewery.co.uk/

Square fermenters made of slate, with a recirculation going on during fermentation.
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Post by Cowboy44 » Fri Apr 23, 2021 7:39 am

Jocky wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 7:04 am
Here you go - it’s a short way down the page:
https://www.samuelsmithsbrewery.co.uk/

Square fermenters made of slate, with a recirculation going on during fermentation.
That is amazing!!!!! =D> We don't anything remotely like this in Australia. Horse drawn deliveries! It is now on my bucket list - just need your COVID to settle down in Blighty :o and reopen international borders.

Thanks Jocky!

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Post by An Ankoù » Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:13 am

You're welcome
Search for "Yorkshire Squares in Brewing". This from Wikipedia:

Historically, the Yorkshire Square vessel was constructed from Yorkshire Sandstone, but Welsh slate quickly proved to be the material of choice. A modern innovation is the so-called 'Round Square' pioneered by the Black Sheep brewery, which is built from stainless steel. The round shape makes it easier to clean out (a task that requires personnel to physically climb into the vessels) between brewing cycles. The Yorkshire Square fermenting system dates back over 200 years ago, and is still used by Samuel Smith's, the Theakston Brewery, Cameron's Brewery, Marston's and the Black Sheep brewery.[28][29]
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Post by Jocky » Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:42 am

Cowboy44 wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 7:39 am
Jocky wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 7:04 am
Here you go - it’s a short way down the page:
https://www.samuelsmithsbrewery.co.uk/

Square fermenters made of slate, with a recirculation going on during fermentation.
That is amazing!!!!! =D> We don't anything remotely like this in Australia. Horse drawn deliveries! It is now on my bucket list - just need your COVID to settle down in Blighty :o and reopen international borders.

Thanks Jocky!
In that case you also need to look up 'Burton Union'
Ingredients: Water, Barley, Hops, Yeast, Seaweed, Blood, Sweat, The swim bladder of a sturgeon, My enemies tears, Scenes of mild peril, An otter's handbag and Riboflavin.

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Post by An Ankoù » Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:10 am

Jocky wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:42 am
Cowboy44 wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 7:39 am
Jocky wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 7:04 am
Here you go - it’s a short way down the page:
https://www.samuelsmithsbrewery.co.uk/

Square fermenters made of slate, with a recirculation going on during fermentation.
That is amazing!!!!! =D> We don't anything remotely like this in Australia. Horse drawn deliveries! It is now on my bucket list - just need your COVID to settle down in Blighty :o and reopen international borders.

Thanks Jocky!
In that case you also need to look up 'Burton Union'
You absolutely do need to look up Burton Union. also Double Dropping and the workings of a Tower Brewery.
Here's something to get you started off. I'd pour a beer and sit back and enjoy a good read.
As for Covid, the UK thinks it's got it under control- I doubt that. It's even worse in Europe. Stay put for a couple of years would be my advice.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brewing_methods
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Post by MashBag » Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:12 pm

https://www.balliihoo.co.uk/25-litre-wi ... gJi7vD_BwE

these are very expensive. but you cannot beat them in my opinion.

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Post by An Ankoù » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:05 pm

MashBag wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:12 pm
https://www.balliihoo.co.uk/25-litre-wi ... gJi7vD_BwE

these are very expensive. but you cannot beat them in my opinion.

And scratches are a phobia, not a fact.
Wow. Those are old-school. I've got a good half dozen of them, some from Boots, and used to use them for lager storage and cider-making The handles are really good, while the handles on the Speidel fermenters lift at an angle that makes me think they're going to snap when the vessel's full. They haven't, of course. Yet.
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Post by MashBag » Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:03 pm

Gym handles are a fantastic upgrade ... treat yourself :D

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Post by Cowboy44 » Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:00 pm

Jocky wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:42 am
Cowboy44 wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 7:39 am
Jocky wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 7:04 am
Here you go - it’s a short way down the page:
https://www.samuelsmithsbrewery.co.uk/

Square fermenters made of slate, with a recirculation going on during fermentation.
That is amazing!!!!! =D> We don't anything remotely like this in Australia. Horse drawn deliveries! It is now on my bucket list - just need your COVID to settle down in Blighty :o and reopen international borders.

Thanks Jocky!
In that case you also need to look up 'Burton Union'
In researching Burton Union via this link https://beerandbrewing.com/dictionary/IdBjsaZjWz/ - I see that Firestone Walker in California use the same method! If you track down a Firestone walker, do yourself a flavour! I've only tried this one https://www.beer360.com.au/products/fir ... 8176169069, but there are a stack of others.... https://www.firestonebeer.com/our-beers/

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Post by Cowboy44 » Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:04 pm

An Ankoù wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:10 am
Jocky wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:42 am
Cowboy44 wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 7:39 am


That is amazing!!!!! =D> We don't anything remotely like this in Australia. Horse drawn deliveries! It is now on my bucket list - just need your COVID to settle down in Blighty :o and reopen international borders.

Thanks Jocky!
In that case you also need to look up 'Burton Union'
You absolutely do need to look up Burton Union. also Double Dropping and the workings of a Tower Brewery.
Here's something to get you started off. I'd pour a beer and sit back and enjoy a good read.
As for Covid, the UK thinks it's got it under control- I doubt that. It's even worse in Europe. Stay put for a couple of years would be my advice.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brewing_methods
in Googling "Double Dropping", of course Australia has to be different.... tsk https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs ... /dar.12843

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Post by chris2012 » Mon Apr 26, 2021 12:42 pm

I don't think I saw 'closed transfers' mentioned as one of the advantages of certain SS fermenters. (I don't think I've seen any plastic ones you can do that with?)

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Post by Cobnut » Mon Apr 26, 2021 12:47 pm

chris2012 wrote:
Mon Apr 26, 2021 12:42 pm
I don't think I saw 'closed transfers' mentioned as one of the advantages of certain SS fermenters. (I don't think I've seen any plastic ones you can do that with?)
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Post by chris2012 » Mon Apr 26, 2021 12:57 pm

Neat! Will look at those, cheers.

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Post by McMullan » Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:01 pm

I wasn't ever able to justify the cost of SS FVs. A complete waste of money mainly, for home brew. They don't produce better beer. And some look like more hassle than they're worth. I was happily using plastic FVs for years, until Kegmenters arrived. Very simple design that works very well. My main use is to seal towards the end of fermentation to naturally carbonate, then pressure transfer to kegs or beer gun some bottles.

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Post by MashBag » Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:09 pm

chris2012 wrote:
Mon Apr 26, 2021 12:42 pm
I don't think I saw 'closed transfers' mentioned as one of the advantages of certain SS fermenters. (I don't think I've seen any plastic ones you can do that with?)
There is a clue there!

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