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Re: Beer stone remover

Post by MashBag » Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:06 pm

Thanks chaps.

Wasn't unpleasant, still drinkable. Just "OK" . Unpleasent gets fed to the staff 🤣🤣

According to anglian water calcium is 3 ppm, but will double check.

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Re: Beer stone remover

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Re: Beer stone remover

Post by guypettigrew » Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:22 pm

You've got more arsenic than calcium!!!

Something's very wrong there.

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Re: Beer stone remover

Post by clarets7 » Fri Oct 21, 2022 10:30 pm

Mashbag, I've looked at many water reports over the years and that is just not right. Are you on a spring water supply or something strange? My water is very soft and low alkalinity yet still has 13mgCa/L. What water area are you in?
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Re: Beer stone remover

Post by Eric » Fri Oct 21, 2022 10:41 pm

The arsenic is in microgrammes per litre, but from that table it has 20 times more chlorine than calcium and I would have thought that would be palatably undrinkable. If I read that correctly the benzene content is many times above a carcinogenic level. There is something radically wrong with that table.

Can you send a link to that table.
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Re: Beer stone remover

Post by Eric » Fri Oct 21, 2022 10:51 pm

guypettigrew wrote:
Fri Oct 21, 2022 7:33 pm
Eric wrote:
Fri Oct 21, 2022 7:14 pm
Assuming alkalinity was 120 mg/l as CaCO3 and target was 20 mg/l as CaCO3, then desired reduction would be 100 mg/l.
30 litres multiplied by 100 mg/l equals 3000 mg.

3000 mg divided by 183 mg/ml equals 19.4 ml. Correct.

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How do you get to 19.4ml of AMS?

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Yes Guy, typing in low light hit the 9 above the 6 on the keypad. 3000/183 = 16.4.
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Re: Beer stone remover

Post by MashBag » Sat Oct 22, 2022 7:20 am

Eric wrote:
Fri Oct 21, 2022 10:41 pm
The arsenic is in microgrammes per litre, but from that table it has 20 times more chlorine than calcium and I would have thought that would be palatably undrinkable. If I read that correctly the benzene content is many times above a carcinogenic level. There is something radically wrong with that table.

Can you send a link to that table.
It is a pity I cannot upload it as a PDF ...ADMIN !!!! :D

http://waterquality.anglianwater.com/map.aspx and type in PE12 7LR.

Just below postocde you will see "I want a full Drinking Water Quality Report for this area"


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Re: Beer stone remover

Post by guypettigrew » Sat Oct 22, 2022 7:46 am

Ah, mystery solved!

Your calcium is 124ppm. The '3' you saw is the number of samples taken.

The report's not easy to read, though. But perhaps it looks better on your PC than mine. I have to keep sliding it left to right and back again.

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Re: Beer stone remover

Post by Eric » Sat Oct 22, 2022 10:43 am

Using Graham's "liquor Treatment Calculator" from this Forum for 30 litres of water with average figures from the Anglian Water site and his Burton Pale Ale profile that has a 130ppm level of calcium, the problem is obvious.
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Interesting the beer tasted of soft water.
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Re: Beer stone remover

Post by Eric » Sat Oct 22, 2022 5:35 pm

Just in case you are curious about the profile used for the brew, I've again used Graham's program to show what those additions created.
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Re: Beer stone remover

Post by MashBag » Sun Oct 23, 2022 7:59 am

That sliding right and left did make it hard to read.

Thanks for spotting the problem.

I am a little annoyed at myself a) for the misread and b) for changing 2 things in one go. Making it harder to spot what happened.

Brewing next week. Will recalc my DWB.

Thanks chaps.

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Re: Beer stone remover

Post by Eric » Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:58 am

MashBag wrote:
Sun Oct 23, 2022 7:59 am
That sliding right and left did make it hard to read.

Thanks for spotting the problem.

I am a little annoyed at myself a) for the misread and b) for changing 2 things in one go. Making it harder to spot what happened.

Brewing next week. Will recalc my DWB.

Thanks chaps.
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Well, the clue is in Clarets7's post, you don't become competent assimilator of data from water quality reports without a bit of practice.
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Mashbag, I've looked at many water reports over the years and that is just not right. Are you on a spring water supply or something strange? My water is very soft and low alkalinity yet still has 13mgCa/L. What water area are you in?
I'd not be too concerned about changing more than one thing at a time. There isn't one perfect beer, but a good pale beer demands low alkalinity water. You could brew without any salt additions to the mash, but a truly serious attempt would involve checking your water's alkalinity after acid treatment and measuring mash and wort pH. Meanwhile I'd suggest you treat your brewing liquor's alkalinity with CRS to 20ppm CaCO3 or slightly less and throw a teaspoon of DWB into the boiler to improve hot and cold break as well as yeast flocculation.
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Re: Beer stone remover

Post by MashBag » Sun Oct 23, 2022 1:42 pm

That is good advice Eric. Thank you.

I will let you know how it's goes.

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Re: Beer stone remover

Post by MashBag » Fri Oct 28, 2022 7:15 am

Eric wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 5:07 pm
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Had anyone got one of these?

Thoughts?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/394205070468 ... media=COPY
No! Both of mine are cream coloured and cost less. :lol:
After much delay (postage), cream coloured and costing less =D> arrived. Calibration done. Supply water 280. Thanks.

Off to make some AMS water for the iron next!

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Re: Beer stone remover

Post by Eric » Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:43 pm

MashBag wrote:
Fri Oct 28, 2022 7:15 am
After much delay (postage), cream coloured and costing less =D> arrived. Calibration done. Supply water 280. Thanks.

Off to make some AMS water for the iron next!
280? What does that represent?

It would appear you have a belief that adding AMS to hard water will make it soft and therefore suitable for use in a steam iron. It doesn't
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