Timothy Taylor Landlord
Timothy Taylor Landlord
Apologies if this has already been covered, but what the hell has happened to this once great brew? It used to be one of my all time favourites but my own attempts from BYO are nearer what it used to taste like than the nondescript kelt coming out of Keighley nowadays. Madge would most certainly not approve.
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I've not had it in ages, sad to hear that it's gone crap. Not a few badly kept casks perhaps?
Deuchars went the same way, a shadow of its former self
Deuchars went the same way, a shadow of its former self
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I'd agree about Deuchars, it used to be fresh tasting, distinctive and full of flavour. It used to be one of my favorite beers but I don't think it's anywhere near as good as it used to be. The recipe in GW's book is good. I've done it a couple of times and I'll certainly do it again.
I don't know too much about Landlord as I rarely drink it. I had a couple of pints a few weeks ago and they were very good but I could never see what the hype is all about.
I don't know too much about Landlord as I rarely drink it. I had a couple of pints a few weeks ago and they were very good but I could never see what the hype is all about.
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Landlord always tastes great. But I only ever drink it in an exceptional CAMRA rated pub.
Deuchars always seems a bit "meh" to me. Then I only ever see that in youngs pubs and I'm not much of a fan of their stuff either.
Deuchars always seems a bit "meh" to me. Then I only ever see that in youngs pubs and I'm not much of a fan of their stuff either.
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Landlord is exceptional in my opinion very difficult to clone I've never managed it or tasted anyone else who has their water is unique to the brewery.
Landlord is an expensive beer for average pubs to buy in but you now often see it in chain pubs who must get it cheaper buying bulk as a cooperative , it's never traveled well and when it's not been handled and served well then I think this is where the drop on quality is coming from.
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Landlord is an expensive beer for average pubs to buy in but you now often see it in chain pubs who must get it cheaper buying bulk as a cooperative , it's never traveled well and when it's not been handled and served well then I think this is where the drop on quality is coming from.
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I agree with alix here in the main. I've gotten very close with a couple of clone attempts.....but never spot on.
There is a pub fairly local to me which has it on all the time.....and it is always in good nick. Worth the effort of a 10 minute car journey, even if I am then limited to two pints.
I think you also have to consider the 'lupulin threshold shift'. TTL was once considered an extremely hoppy beer and I think that over the past few years the new hoppier and hoppier styles have shifted everyone's tatebuds and what were once considered very hoppy beers now seem not to be.
If you can find it fresh and in good condition it is still a cracking pint IMO.
There is a pub fairly local to me which has it on all the time.....and it is always in good nick. Worth the effort of a 10 minute car journey, even if I am then limited to two pints.
I think you also have to consider the 'lupulin threshold shift'. TTL was once considered an extremely hoppy beer and I think that over the past few years the new hoppier and hoppier styles have shifted everyone's tatebuds and what were once considered very hoppy beers now seem not to be.
If you can find it fresh and in good condition it is still a cracking pint IMO.
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We recently stayed a few nights in Skipton, I would guess around 12 miles from the brewery. We stayed in a Timothy Taylor pub and I have to say it was the best Landlord I have ever drank. I have drank it in York, London, my home town and a few other places but the Skipton beer was exceptional.
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Which pub did you stay in Den, can you recommend it?Dennis King wrote:We recently stayed a few nights in Skipton, I would guess around 12 miles from the brewery. We stayed in a Timothy Taylor pub and I have to say it was the best Landlord I have ever drank. I have drank it in York, London, my home town and a few other places but the Skipton beer was exceptional.
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We stayed here highly recommended. Nice room, great breakfast and very good beer.
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Looks a bit pricey for northern Johnny.
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Pints Brewed in 2021......... 104
Pints brewed in 2018.. 416
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I did wonder what all the fuss was about when I tried my first pint of TTL. Mind you, that was only about 3 years ago - maybe it had gone downhill when I tried it.
A lot of beers have become the victims of their success, such as Deuchars IPA, Doom Bar and notice they've even dropped the ABV on Ringwood Old Thumper....
A lot of beers have become the victims of their success, such as Deuchars IPA, Doom Bar and notice they've even dropped the ABV on Ringwood Old Thumper....
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I used to like Doombar a year or so ago, can't stand it now. I was on holiday in York recently and tried the Landlord for the first time after seeing it sitting on supermarket shelves for ages...I can't see what all the fuss is about, it had a bit of malt flavour, a bit of hop and that was about it.
It is probably another prime example of how it travels and how well it is kept, or just indeed my tastebuds, needless to say I won't be rushing to try it again.
It is probably another prime example of how it travels and how well it is kept, or just indeed my tastebuds, needless to say I won't be rushing to try it again.
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Landlord is my drink of choice in my local and it is a fantastic beer. It's absolutely nothing like the bottled version you can get in the supermarket, or indeed like the landlord served in another pub down the road from me. It seems to be a beer that changes vastly depending on the various factors which change the taste of a brew, so I can really believe that people have had bad pints of it even when they come from a cask in a usually well looked after pub.Dennis King wrote:We recently stayed a few nights in Skipton, I would guess around 12 miles from the brewery. We stayed in a Timothy Taylor pub and I have to say it was the best Landlord I have ever drank. I have drank it in York, London, my home town and a few other places but the Skipton beer was exceptional.
However from some pubs Landlord can be a truly great pint.
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Mmmm
had a pint of this yesterday as it was one of the lower ABV's in the pub, well i won't be drinking it again. Bland and tasteless
Blimey my first attempt at a kit homebrew was better than this rubbish
had a pint of this yesterday as it was one of the lower ABV's in the pub, well i won't be drinking it again. Bland and tasteless
Blimey my first attempt at a kit homebrew was better than this rubbish
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I'm sorry guys but when I visited UK finally last autumn I was all "oh, real ales!" guy. But then I tried all these beers from byobra and stuff and I was all "meh, wat?!"
These beers have changed. And our palates have changed as well. Next visit to London in winter 2014/15 was much more enjoyable. Britain still has great beer, although elsewhere. And I'm not talking Brew Dog.
These beers have changed. And our palates have changed as well. Next visit to London in winter 2014/15 was much more enjoyable. Britain still has great beer, although elsewhere. And I'm not talking Brew Dog.