wilkos white chard 30 bottle

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onered05

wilkos white chard 30 bottle

Post by onered05 » Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:18 am

ok iv got a wilko (from wilkinsons) white chardonnay on the go but cant tell if it is fermenting.
iv done everything by the book and its now been five days brewing. my start reading was 13 and after 5 days it is 10
as im a dim wit can someone tell me what this meens and if my brew is actually working... by the way when i took the lid off the fermenting bucket the smell took my breath away..is this a good sign? #-o #-o #-o

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Re: wilkos white chard 30 bottle

Post by crafty john » Thu Oct 18, 2012 4:00 pm

I can't quite get to grips with your gravity readings but if it's dropping lower it's fermenting.

onered05

Re: wilkos white chard 30 bottle

Post by onered05 » Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:27 pm

hi john...that's because iv not quite learned how to read the gravity yet as im new to brewing. there are three sets of numbers on the gravity reader
and iv not been told how to take a reading.. anyhow i just looked at the large numbers and jotted them down on paper, im not in mine right now but
iv got it all down on paper and will post it later on today. on a plus note i was woke up twice last night by the noise of bubbles rising (unless it was my missus in her sleep) but i think its fine and i will add the fining's tomorrow. ill post the reading i wrote down later and see if you can make sence of it for me.. thanks fella.. [-o<

crafty john

Re: wilkos white chard 30 bottle

Post by crafty john » Thu Oct 18, 2012 6:04 pm

onered05 wrote:hi john...that's because iv not quite learned how to read the gravity yet as im new to brewing. there are three sets of numbers on the gravity reader
and iv not been told how to take a reading.. anyhow i just looked at the large numbers and jotted them down on paper, im not in mine right now but
iv got it all down on paper and will post it later on today. on a plus note i was woke up twice last night by the noise of bubbles rising (unless it was my missus in her sleep) but i think its fine and i will add the fining's tomorrow. ill post the reading i wrote down later and see if you can make sence of it for me.. thanks fella.. [-o<
a wine should start at 1.090ish and finish at 0.990ish which will give about 13% ABV

onered05

Re: wilkos white chard 30 bottle

Post by onered05 » Thu Oct 18, 2012 6:51 pm

a wine should start at 1.090ish and finish at 0.990ish which will give about 13% ABV[/quote]

will look when i get in mate... like i say im a novice so i need to grasp the basics .. :oops:

onered05

Re: wilkos white chard 30 bottle

Post by onered05 » Fri Oct 19, 2012 9:46 am

crafty john wrote:
onered05 wrote:hi john...that's because iv not quite learned how to read the gravity yet as im new to brewing. there are three sets of numbers on the gravity reader
and iv not been told how to take a reading.. anyhow i just looked at the large numbers and jotted them down on paper, im not in mine right now but
iv got it all down on paper and will post it later on today. on a plus note i was woke up twice last night by the noise of bubbles rising (unless it was my missus in her sleep) but i think its fine and i will add the fining's tomorrow. ill post the reading i wrote down later and see if you can make sence of it for me.. thanks fella.. [-o<
a wine should start at 1.090ish and finish at 0.990ish which will give about 13% ABV
OK john the hydrometer i have is the S1011 Triple Scale Hydrometer witch is color coded.
the problem im having is that there are three sets of numbers to read from and im not sure witch one i should be looking at...
here is the link for a picture and write up on it.. look for yourself and get back to me.. thanks
http://www.stevenson-reeves.co.uk/hydrometers/HBWB.htm
my one is the first on the list

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Re: wilkos white chard 30 bottle

Post by ajclarkson » Fri Oct 19, 2012 10:19 am

Not meaning to tread on johns toes here, but I was just scanning through this thread and thought I might be able to give you a quick answer on the hydrometer front, as its the same hydrometer I have!

When someone refers to a gravity reading of 1.090 for example, in terms of the large bold numbers on your scale, that'd be 90. The small markings between are .002 increments, so between 80 and 90 on your hydrometer will be 1.082, 1.084, 1.086 and 1.088.

You'd expect a wine to have a starting gravity of around 1.090 as John said, that's the bottom of the shaded blue area, so you should see that line matchup with the liquid level.

Fermentation should be complete at 0.990ish for a wine, some may not quite make it there, depends on the yeast and other factors. In any case that's the area your aiming for. (The 99 above the yellow band on the hydrometer)

It might seem confusing to say things like, that's what you're aiming for rather than, this is what it'll be. With fermentation it's best practice to allow the amount of time specified by your kit, then take a reading. Leave it another 24 hours and take another reading. If these both match then you can assume fermentation is over, if they change, give it a couple more days and repeat until you get 2 consistent readings 24 hours apart.

It's always best to do hydrometer readings ins separate trial jar, as its easier to read the levels etc rather than trying to look into the fermenter. A wine theif is an excellent piece of kit for this, just make sure it's sanitised before it goes anywhere near that fermenter!

I hope that helps with your understanding of hydrometer readings a bit, seems daunting at first but it'll quickly become second nature to you!
Adam

Fermenting: AG#15 - Dubbel - Oh, Seven?
Conditioning: AG#14 - Pale Ale 3 (Challenger & Mt. Hood)
Drinking: Out! :(
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onered05

Re: wilkos white chard 30 bottle

Post by onered05 » Fri Oct 19, 2012 10:34 am

ajclarkson wrote:Not meaning to tread on johns toes here, but I was just scanning through this thread and thought I might be able to give you a quick answer on the hydrometer front, as its the same hydrometer I have!

When someone refers to a gravity reading of 1.090 for example, in terms of the large bold numbers on your scale, that'd be 90. The small markings between are .002 increments, so between 80 and 90 on your hydrometer will be 1.082, 1.084, 1.086 and 1.088.

You'd expect a wine to have a starting gravity of around 1.090 as John said, that's the bottom of the shaded blue area, so you should see that line matchup with the liquid level.

Fermentation should be complete at 0.990ish for a wine, some may not quite make it there, depends on the yeast and other factors. In any case that's the area your aiming for. (The 99 above the yellow band on the hydrometer)

It might seem confusing to say things like, that's what you're aiming for rather than, this is what it'll be. With fermentation it's best practice to allow the amount of time specified by your kit, then take a reading. Leave it another 24 hours and take another reading. If these both match then you can assume fermentation is over, if they change, give it a couple more days and repeat until you get 2 consistent readings 24 hours apart.

It's always best to do hydrometer readings ins separate trial jar, as its easier to read the levels etc rather than trying to look into the fermenter. A wine theif is an excellent piece of kit for this, just make sure it's sanitised before it goes anywhere near that fermenter!

I hope that helps with your understanding of hydrometer readings a bit, seems daunting at first but it'll quickly become second nature to you!
hi aj.... when i did the sg it was reading 82 on the shaded blue part (large numbers)
and after 5 days it was dead on 60.. does this sound about right?
iv yet to take a reading today as im waiting for my better half to come home from work
so we can shoot out to grab some free empty wine bottles from my local homebrew shop.
thanks for your reply by the way.. well in.

onered05

Re: wilkos white chard 30 bottle

Post by onered05 » Fri Oct 19, 2012 11:10 am

ps can you tell me if i could tranfare the wine for secondery fermentation into a pressure barrel instead of another fermentation
bucket as i only have the 1 bucket and if i do put it in a barrel will it explode on me..haha it does have a release valve like.
:?: :?: :?: :?:

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Re: wilkos white chard 30 bottle

Post by ajclarkson » Fri Oct 19, 2012 11:34 am

Alright,

I'm no where near as experienced with wine as I am with beer, so when it comes to timings I'm guessing a bit really. Sounds like it's coming down well at 1.060 now, but still quite a long way to go. I'd expect it to get at least as low as 1 by the end of fermentation. If it was 82 at the start, then you can expect to get something in the region of 12% ABV out of it, which sounds about right for a Chard. A start of 1.090 is probably more common with reds, as they're typically a little stronger 13-14% ish.

As for doing secondary in a pressure barrel, it *seems* like it'd be ok from my stance, but as I say I'm a beer brewer really. You could always sanitise that, siphon the wine in, clean your fermenter and siphon back into that. I'll probably get stick from people for suggesting that, as you're supposed to minimise movements to avoid introducing too much oxygen (at least in beer). But I've done similar a couple of times when I've been short on buckets and all's turned out fine! :D
Adam

Fermenting: AG#15 - Dubbel - Oh, Seven?
Conditioning: AG#14 - Pale Ale 3 (Challenger & Mt. Hood)
Drinking: Out! :(
Up Next: Oatmeal Stout, Hefe
Year To Date: 165 pints | Total: 775 pints

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Re: wilkos white chard 30 bottle

Post by onered05 » Fri Oct 19, 2012 11:52 am

ajclarkson wrote:Alright,

I'm no where near as experienced with wine as I am with beer, so when it comes to timings I'm guessing a bit really. Sounds like it's coming down well at 1.060 now, but still quite a long way to go. I'd expect it to get at least as low as 1 by the end of fermentation. If it was 82 at the start, then you can expect to get something in the region of 12% ABV out of it, which sounds about right for a Chard. A start of 1.090 is probably more common with reds, as they're typically a little stronger 13-14% ish.

As for doing secondary in a pressure barrel, it *seems* like it'd be ok from my stance, but as I say I'm a beer brewer really. You could always sanitise that, siphon the wine in, clean your fermenter and siphon back into that. I'll probably get stick from people for suggesting that, as you're supposed to minimise movements to avoid introducing too much oxygen (at least in beer). But I've done similar a couple of times when I've been short on buckets and all's turned out fine! :D
nice 1 aj.. i thought as much about transfareing it to a barrel then strait back to the same bucket once cleaned.. i cant see this being a problem as after 7 days in the secondary fermentation bucket i have to stir it anyway to get most of the co2 out and to let it clear before bottling.. as for my reading then it sounds like its all going smoothly after what you have told me.. it does say on the tin that the abv would be about 12% so im happy with that (well her indoors is) :D
thanks for your help aj and happy brewing fella.... ps im a beer drinker to the wine is for her.

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Re: wilkos white chard 30 bottle

Post by ajclarkson » Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:26 am

No problem mate, hope it is going along swimmingly. I was just in Wilkos picking up another fermentor to use as a bottling bucket and grabbed the 6 bottle version to have a crack with as I've got a spare demijohn kicking around at the minute. £8 for 6 bottles of hopefully decent wine seemed like too good an offer to pass up!
Adam

Fermenting: AG#15 - Dubbel - Oh, Seven?
Conditioning: AG#14 - Pale Ale 3 (Challenger & Mt. Hood)
Drinking: Out! :(
Up Next: Oatmeal Stout, Hefe
Year To Date: 165 pints | Total: 775 pints

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Re: wilkos white chard 30 bottle

Post by onered05 » Fri Nov 09, 2012 3:42 pm

UPDATE... it has been bubleing away now for three days after adding the third batch of yeast and some nutrients so i may just have saved it, we will see when it comes to the taste test i think...fingers crossed.

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