Tettnang

[far9410]

Got some of these, thinking of using in a Belgian blonde/ ledge clone ish, what flavours do they give? Will they be ok in this?

[seymour]

Got some of these, thinking of using in a Belgian blonde/ ledge clone ish, what flavours do they give? Will they be ok in this?

They'll definitely work. One of the most authentic German noble types of all, so expect subtle, but pleasantly flowery, grassy, mildly peppery and perfumey.

You crack me up, far9410, buying all this stuff before you even know what it is.

[far9410]

Hi Seymour, I had an idea about these but didn't know if they might have any side flavours that could detract from the Belgian taste I'm after. Hey when stuffs on offer I grab it!

[seymour]

Hi Seymour, I had an idea about these but didn't know if they might have any side flavours that could detract from the Belgian taste I'm after. Hey when stuffs on offer I grab it!

I don't blame you, it's a great philosophy. No, Tettnang won't detract at all, from anything, ever. Remember, in the grand scheme of things, Belgium is "a low-German country" and as such, their own hops are very Germanic in nature, and their brewers are influenced more by German techniques than any other system. Most of them use the finest noble types they can afford, at least for the important aroma additions.

[scuppeteer]

That's quite a bold statement Seymour. Unless you are merely referring to the terroir. I doubt any Belgian Brewery would state German influence more likely the other way round.

For example the world famous Trappist beers actually have their origins in Northern France.

Where can you buy Belgian hops? Exactly, NO WHERE! Cos they keep them all for themselves. Which is probably why they make some of the finest beers in the world. Rochefort 8 comes to mind.

[far9410]

Basic Information
Batch Name: Leffe blonde
Brewed By:
Style: Belgian Pale Ale
Batch Size: 24.00 L
Boil Time: 60 min
Initial Boil Volume: 30.0L
Mash Method: All Grain


Calculated & Measured Statistics
Calculated O.G. 1.065 (72% Efficiency)
Calculated F.G. 1.014 (78% Yeast Attenuation)
Measured O.G. 0.000 (0% Actual Efficiency)
Measured F.G. 0.000 (0% Actual Attenuation)
ABV 6.9%
IBU 31.9
SRM 9.5°L
Color

Malt Bill
Malt Name Weight PPG SRM Type
Pilsen - 1.7°L 4.50 kg 1.037 1.70 Mashed Grain
Sugar, Table (Sucrose) 0.60 kg 1.046 1.00 Extract/Adjunct
Munich Malt 0.50 kg 1.037 9.00 Mashed Grain
Vienna - 2.7°L 0.50 kg 1.035 2.70 Mashed Grain
Candi Sugar, Brown (Soft) - 40°L 0.20 kg 1.032 40.00 Extract/Adjunct
Aromatic Malt 0.20 lbs 1.036 26.00 Mashed Grain
Wheat Malt, White - 3°L 0.20 lbs 1.037 3.00 Mashed Grain
Special B Malt 0.10 kg 1.030 180.00 Mashed Grain

Mash Rest Profile
Rest Temperature Time Type Details
single step 66°C 90 min Initial Strike Mash-in with 14.0 L of water at 74°C
Batch Sparge with 2 batches of 11.62 L water at 77°C

Hop Bill
Hop Name Time Added Weight AA% Type
Tettnanger (German) 60 min 60.00 g 5.1% Leaf Hop
Tettnanger (German) 10 min 40.00 g 5.1% Leaf Hop

Yeast Details
Yeast Strand Quantity Attenuation Flocculation
WLP500 White Labs Trappist Ale 1 78 Medium - Low

This is tomorrow's brew, I'm going to rack off 2 X 4 l to Demi johns after 4 days, adding polish raspberry syrup to one and cherry to the other

[timbo41]

Got some of these, thinking of using in a Belgian blonde/ ledge clone ish, what flavours do they give? Will they be ok in this?

They'll definitely work. One of the most authentic German noble types of all, so expect subtle, but pleasantly flowery, grassy, mildly peppery and perfumey.

You crack me up, far9410, buying all this stuff before you even know what it is.

And this is why I now have kazbek bouclier vital herkules and a few others.......get em while their hot! Then spend ages working out the combos

[seymour]

That's quite a bold statement Seymour. Unless you are merely referring to the terroir. I doubt any Belgian Brewery would state German influence more likely the other way round.

For example the world famous Trappist beers actually have their origins in Northern France.

Where can you buy Belgian hops? Exactly, NO WHERE! Cos they keep them all for themselves. Which is probably why they make some of the finest beers in the world. Rochefort 8 comes to mind.

You're right, that was a controversial overstatement. I was referring to terroir, and historical migration of brewing techniques. You're definitely right about the shared French influence, and many of Belgian ale yeasts are indistinguishable from French wine yeasts, which certainly is nothing like German lager brewing.

I also agree Belgian hops are delicious, Poperings Hommelbier is divine, but isn't it true Belgian hop fields were German noble types originally transplanted there? I'm pretty sure genetic studies have shown that too. Case in point, Rochefort uses Hallertau hops.

Correct me where I'm wrong, I know you're the hops expert.

[Rookie]

Where can you buy Belgian hops? Exactly, NO WHERE! Cos they keep them all for themselves. Which is probably why they make some of the finest beers in the world. Rochefort 8 comes to mind.

I haven't been on their website for a while, but the organic beer supply company Seven Bridges used to list several Belgian hops.

[far9410]

Basic Information
Batch Name: Leffe blonde
Brewed By:
Style: Belgian Pale Ale
Batch Size: 24.00 L
Boil Time: 60 min
Initial Boil Volume: 30.0L
Mash Method: All Grain


Calculated & Measured Statistics
Calculated O.G. 1.065 (72% Efficiency)
Calculated F.G. 1.014 (78% Yeast Attenuation)
Measured O.G. 0.000 (0% Actual Efficiency)
Measured F.G. 0.000 (0% Actual Attenuation)
ABV 6.9%
IBU 31.9
SRM 9.5°L
Color

Malt Bill
Malt Name Weight PPG SRM Type
Pilsen - 1.7°L 4.50 kg 1.037 1.70 Mashed Grain
Sugar, Table (Sucrose) 0.60 kg 1.046 1.00 Extract/Adjunct
Munich Malt 0.50 kg 1.037 9.00 Mashed Grain
Vienna - 2.7°L 0.50 kg 1.035 2.70 Mashed Grain
Candi Sugar, Brown (Soft) - 40°L 0.20 kg 1.032 40.00 Extract/Adjunct
Aromatic Malt 0.20 lbs 1.036 26.00 Mashed Grain
Wheat Malt, White - 3°L 0.20 lbs 1.037 3.00 Mashed Grain
Special B Malt 0.10 kg 1.030 180.00 Mashed Grain

Mash Rest Profile
Rest Temperature Time Type Details
single step 66°C 90 min Initial Strike Mash-in with 14.0 L of water at 74°C
Batch Sparge with 2 batches of 11.62 L water at 77°C

Hop Bill
Hop Name Time Added Weight AA% Type
Tettnanger (German) 60 min 60.00 g 5.1% Leaf Hop
Tettnanger (German) 10 min 40.00 g 5.1% Leaf Hop

Yeast Details
Yeast Strand Quantity Attenuation Flocculation
WLP500 White Labs Trappist Ale 1 78 Medium - Low

This is tomorrow's brew, I'm going to rack off 2 X 4 l to Demi johns after 4 days, adding polish raspberry syrup to one and cherry to the other

Ok this is now in the second stage, the smell in the brew house is amazing! the syrup additions are going like a rocket!

[seymour]

Nice work!