Connectors - Cam & Groove, Tri Clamp or other?
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Re: Connectors - Cam & Groove, Tri Clamp or other?
In a system with flexible hoses, if the outlet hose can be lowered temporarily (sufficiently for gravity to pull liquid through), then the pumps can be primed that way too, as an alternative to the bleed valves. The former was my preference, as it introduced one less thing to clean on the hose (which was also used post-boil), but it may not be everyone's choice because it can be more prone to drips and dribbles.
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Re: Connectors - Cam & Groove, Tri Clamp or other?
orlando wrote:I hope for your sake you don't see QD's in use afterwards.k1100t wrote:OK, so having pretty much decided to go the Camlock route
I have been quietly ignoring quick disconnects. It's bad enough trying to choose between two systems, with out having to think about a third...

I know nothing about bleed valves, got a link to something suitable...?orlando wrote:I found bleed valves placed on the outflow vital on all pumps.
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Re: Connectors - Cam & Groove, Tri Clamp or other?
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Re: Connectors - Cam & Groove, Tri Clamp or other?
Yes, it would appear for a bit of googling, that people seem to use a t piece and and two ball valves on the output to accomplish this. Time to go update the big spreadhseet of fixings, again...orlando wrote:Here's your bleed valve.

orlando wrote:And here are the fittings you will regret not buying.

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Re: Connectors - Cam & Groove, Tri Clamp or other?
More than likely there will be a listing in the for sale section in a few months timeorlando wrote: And here are the fittings you will regret not buying.

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Re: Connectors - Cam & Groove, Tri Clamp or other?
It's an ill wind...barneey wrote:More than likely there will be a listing in the for sale section in a few months timeorlando wrote: And here are the fittings you will regret not buying.

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Re: Connectors - Cam & Groove, Tri Clamp or other?
I don't think Bob has accounted for the brewbuilderbug, not matter what he builds, there will be a modification later down the line.
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Re: Connectors - Cam & Groove, Tri Clamp or other?
I think I'm well on the way to that! First attempt was to build a brewery on the cheap using EcoKeg carcasses. It didn't go well, so I'm trying to do it properly this time...barneey wrote:I don't think Bob has accounted for the brewbuilderbug, not matter what he builds, there will be a modification later down the line.

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Re: Connectors - Cam & Groove, Tri Clamp or other?
I won't tell him how much I've contributed to Lardy's bottom line just in case Bob's opposition can read it.barneey wrote:I don't think Bob has accounted for the brewbuilderbug, not matter what he builds, there will be a modification later down the line.

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Re: Connectors - Cam & Groove, Tri Clamp or other?
My personal order of preference with connectors would be:-
1) Tri-clover (clamp) = 10 points
2) QD = 5 points
3) Gaffer Tape = 3 points
4) Sellotape = 1 points
5) Chicken = 1 points
6) C&G = 1 points
In order of the strongest seal
1) Tri-clover (clamp) = 10 points
2) C&G = 5 points
3) QD = 3 points
4) Gaffer Tape = 1 points
5) Sellotape = 1 points
6) Chicken = 1 points
In order of appearance
1) Tri-clover (clamp) = 10 points
2) Tri-clover (clamp) = 10 points
3) Tri-clover (clamp) = 10 points
4) Tri-clover (clamp) = 10 points
5) Tri-clover (clamp) = 10 points
6) Tri-clover (clamp) = 10 points
So with a very scientific personal analysis, tri-clover still wins, by a country mile.
Results
1) Tri-clamp = 80 points
2) QD = 8 points
3) C+G = 6 points
4) Gaffer Tape = 4 points
5) Sellotape = 2 points
6) Chicken = 2 points
1) Tri-clover (clamp) = 10 points
2) QD = 5 points
3) Gaffer Tape = 3 points
4) Sellotape = 1 points
5) Chicken = 1 points
6) C&G = 1 points
In order of the strongest seal
1) Tri-clover (clamp) = 10 points
2) C&G = 5 points
3) QD = 3 points
4) Gaffer Tape = 1 points
5) Sellotape = 1 points
6) Chicken = 1 points
In order of appearance
1) Tri-clover (clamp) = 10 points
2) Tri-clover (clamp) = 10 points
3) Tri-clover (clamp) = 10 points
4) Tri-clover (clamp) = 10 points
5) Tri-clover (clamp) = 10 points
6) Tri-clover (clamp) = 10 points
So with a very scientific personal analysis, tri-clover still wins, by a country mile.

Results
1) Tri-clamp = 80 points
2) QD = 8 points
3) C+G = 6 points
4) Gaffer Tape = 4 points
5) Sellotape = 2 points
6) Chicken = 2 points
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Re: Connectors - Cam & Groove, Tri Clamp or other?
Given that C&G is really designed for high pressure gas systems, I'd be surprised if Tri-clovers provide a stronger seal...
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Re: Connectors - Cam & Groove, Tri Clamp or other?
Next time I send a parcel maybe I should try chicken, seems it's just as good as sellotape.barneey wrote: 5) Sellotape = 2 points
6) Chicken = 2 points
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Re: Connectors - Cam & Groove, Tri Clamp or other?
Especially for sending glass bottles = 80 points
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Re: Connectors - Cam & Groove, Tri Clamp or other?
So are Cam & Groove and Quick Disconnects liable to leak? Doesn't that rather defeat the point of them?barneey wrote: In order of the strongest seal
1) Tri-clover (clamp) = 10 points
2) C&G = 5 points
3) QD = 3 points

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Re: Connectors - Cam & Groove, Tri Clamp or other?
It is possible to argue over subtleties wrt triclamp and camlock seals, but IMO they are both very good - perhaps in part due to their simplicity. More than sufficient for most homebrewing tasks - I've never had either leak (though to be fair, I only took up with triclamps quite recently).
I tried a few QDs of various kinds and personally don't rate them quite as highly for reliability, though they can't be beaten for convenience, so swings and roundabouts IMO.
I tried a few QDs of various kinds and personally don't rate them quite as highly for reliability, though they can't be beaten for convenience, so swings and roundabouts IMO.
Kev