Stock pot conversion to Copper/HLT

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Post by johnmac » Wed Mar 26, 2008 5:55 pm

Vossy, what brew length are you doing in the 100l pot?

confused

Post by confused » Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:22 pm

pure brewing porn. great stuff.

:lol:

Vossy1

Post by Vossy1 » Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:37 pm

Vossy, what brew length are you doing in the 100l pot?
It hasn't seen use yet JM...this weekend hopefully.
The max I'm planning is 3 cornies worth at a time, 57ltr.
57ltr post boil with 15% loss to evapouration and say 5 ltrs to the hops/copper (worst case) = 70.55 ltr pre boil volume.
In my copper 5mm = 1ltr, so even 30 ltrs under max it's only 15cm from the top of the pot...in theory.

I have thought about 4 corny brews but that would make it 97 ltr pre boil.
It can still be done by topping up during the boil or making a stronger wort and diluting

One thing to be wary of is that they DONT hold 100 ltrs :shock:

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Post by johnmac » Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:54 pm

Thanks Vossy. Is the quoted 50cm x 50cm the actual pot size, excluding the handles? My O level maths makes that 98.17 litres. I'm actually looking at a 70l one to do 2 x conie size brews.

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Post by Vossy1 » Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:04 pm

The 70ltr pots are perfect for 2 corny brews.
I used to do 46 ltr brew lengths to account for 2 corny's, loss to fv, and I could also get about 12 500ml bottles out of it...perfect for me.

My pre boil volume was 61.4ltr, post boil volume 53 ltr and wort collected roughly 46 ltr...depending on hops. Obviously boil rates vary on own systems.

I might have to review the figures for the 100 ltr pots based on useage and those above :roll: ...hadn't looked at it ti'll now.... :lol:

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Post by ECR » Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:18 pm

This thread has resurfaced again, damn it. I'd almost managed to get 100l stainless steel stock pot conversions out of my head :lol:

Vossy1

Post by Vossy1 » Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:24 pm

:lol: :lol:

fivetide

Post by fivetide » Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:38 pm

One day I really, really hope some JBK nutter chucks in the day job entirely and goes into business making bespoke stainless steel HLTs, tuns, boilers, complete breweries and the like to sell to the less talented among us like me (who'd inevitably spin a circular drill bit right across the surface of a nice pot like that and probably straight into my leg).

Seriously, someone do it, you know you'd rather go into the shed than your usual work tomorrow...

:=P :wink: :D

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Post by edit1now » Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:59 pm

Fivetide - you've hit the nail right on the thumb :lol:

subsub

Post by subsub » Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:29 am

I'm sure Vossy1 can be ££££ purswaded to do it :D

Vossy1

Post by Vossy1 » Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:52 am

:lol: :lol:

I've hovered over the post reply button for a while on this ss :lol:
The problem is, it may simply be price prohibitive. I'm sure that with a growing following there is a market, but with that comes legislation...blah blah....blah blah :lol:

If anyone wants to buy the parts and bung me £50 for the time and tools....I may be swayed :lol:

Naturally if I supplied everything I couldn't/wouldn't be held responsible for any failings :roll:

Giant 100 ltr boilers being swapped for a bundle of cash on a park bench spring to mind :lol:

MightyMouth

Post by MightyMouth » Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:30 am

If I dont want a sight gauge and I am using a Gas burner I would only need the following parts.

1 x Stainless Steel Stock Pot

1 x ½" stainless steel ball valve, part number 10397, £16.37
1 x ½" running nipple (brass) part number 6576, £2.16
All from here www.bes.co.uk

2 x 22mm ID stainless steel washers from a local BSA parts shop £0.90
or from below
(M22 washers form B from here www.a2stainless.co.uk)
1 x brass female straight connector ½" female to 15mm compression (local plumbers) £1.00 I am guessing this is the tank connector? have you got a close up of this?

buzzrtbi

Post by buzzrtbi » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:32 am

is there a simple way of controlling (by thermostat or similar potentiometer) the heating elements on this? I will only be using the pot as a boiler.

Is there any merit in insulating the pot and using thermostat to keep the boiler in a "rolling boil". Thought being - if it is well lagged it will use less power to keep the temperature up rather than having both elements switched on.

Alternatively do you use both elements to get up to a boil and then revert to one element to keep it boiling?

:roll:

anomalous_result

Post by anomalous_result » Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:15 pm

buzzrtbi wrote:Is there any merit in insulating the pot and using thermostat to keep the boiler in a "rolling boil". Thought being - if it is well lagged it will use less power to keep the temperature up rather than having both elements switched on.
If you use an immersion type chiller it will take longer to cool.

fivetide

Post by fivetide » Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:19 pm

Ooh I don't know, any complete boiler / tun in stainless steel with nice fittings in the 50L region would be a real winner I reckon.

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