First AG tonight 03/04/08 - Kegged 15/04/08

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First AG tonight 03/04/08 - Kegged 15/04/08

Post by fivetide » Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:06 pm

Hi all. I'm planning on adapting a recipe from Paul at BarleyBottom that I like and brewing sometime very soon rather than waiting for the perfect window of opportunity. Although I was initially going to fly-sparge, I think I could probably fit a batch sparge around life a little easier until I get a nice clear brewday.

Anyway, this is my first stab at a plan. The recipe is tried and tested, I've simply adapted hops weights to fit my stock and upped the MO by 500g to boost the low ABV on the initial recipe (an addition suggested by Paul). I'll add Campden to the liquor and pre-heat the MT with a couple of kettles of boiling water.

Does the overall plan make sense to you? Thanks very much as ever.


Twitter & Busted (Batch Sparge Attempt)

3.5Kg Maris Otter malt
200g Crystal malt
200g Flaked barley
200g Torrefied wheat

Mash at 66c for 90min

Add sparge liquor at 70c
Allow 10min soak between batches

80g Fuggles (4%) hops 90min boil (4%)
40g Styrian Goldings hops 15min boil
1 Protafloc tablet 15min boil
IC in at 15min boil
Cool to below 25c then pitch Safale04


Brew Length: 23L
Percentage Loss During 90 minute boil: 15%:
Estimated loss to hops and trub: 2.5L
Total Grain Bill: 4.1Kg
Dead Space in Mash Tun: 0.5L
Water/Grain Ratio for the Mash: 3L/Kg
Wort Required for the Boil: 30L
Made up from two equal quantities of: 15L
Total Quantity of Water Required For Batch #1: 19.7L
Mash Volume: 12.3L
Top Up With: 7.4L
Water Required for Batch #2: 15L

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Brew Length: 20L
Percentage Loss During 90 minute boil: 15%:
Estimated loss to hops and trub: 2.5L
Total Grain Bill: 4.1Kg
Dead Space in Mash Tun: 0.5L
Water/Grain Ratio for the Mash: 3L/Kg
Wort Required for the Boil: 26.5L
Made up from two equal quantities of: 13.3L
Total Quantity of Water Required For Batch #1: 17.9L
Mash Volume: 12.3L
Top Up With: 5.6L
Water Required for Batch #2: 13.3L
Last edited by fivetide on Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:26 pm, edited 2 times in total.

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Post by fivetide » Thu Apr 03, 2008 3:46 pm

Tips are always very welcome!

I've also decided to add 5% to my grain bills because this was originally a fly-sparging recipe and so presumably expecting a little more efficiency.
This gives me:

3.675Kg Maris Otter malt
210g Crystal malt
210g Flaked barley
210g Torrefied wheat
Last edited by fivetide on Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:38 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Post by BarnsleyBrewer » Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:26 pm

DaaB wrote:Fwiw, a couple of tips when batch sparging; work out you figures by all means, you need something to work to but don't worry if you run off less (or more) than planned in batch one, it just means you have estimated your dead space incorrectly so note it for next time. Add more or less to batch 2 to make up for it, in batch 2 you will get out whatever you put in.

Once done, work out your efficiency, you should find all similar sized batches come out the same in the future so you can calculate your recipes more accurately.
I've always kept a floating mash when sparging with good results (or I think they are)
what is the best way to sparge? I use a bit of sython pipe and keep the water 15cm above the grains!

BarnsleyBrewer

fivetide

Post by fivetide » Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:12 pm

Aha, new grain bill, new sums. Also checked dead space in MT:

Twitter & Busted Batch Sparge Attempt


I added 500g MO for extra strength approaching 4% ABV from 3.2%
I've also decided to add 5% to my grain bills because this was originally a fly-sparging recipe and so presumably expecting a little more efficiency.


3.675Kg Maris Otter malt
210g Crystal malt
210g Flaked barley
210g Torrefied wheat

Mash at 66c for 90min

Add sparge liquor at 70c
Allow 10min soak between batches

80g Fuggles (4%) hops 90min boil (4%)
40g Styrian Goldings hops 15min boil
1 Protafloc tablet 15min boil
IC in at 15min boil
Cool to below 25c
Rehydrate Safale-04

Brew Length: 23L
Percentage Loss During 90 minute boil: 15%:
Estimated loss to hops and trub: 2.5L
Total Grain Bill: 4.3Kg
Dead Space in Mash Tun: 1.5L
Water/Grain Ratio for the Mash: 3L/Kg
Wort Required for the Boil: 30L
Made up from two equal quantities of: 15L
Total Quantity of Water Required For Batch #1: 20.9L
Mash Volume: 12.9L
Top Up With: 8L
Water Required for Batch #2: 15L

Brew Length: 20L
Percentage Loss During 90 minute boil: 15%:
Estimated loss to hops and trub: 2.5L
Total Grain Bill: 4.3Kg
Dead Space in Mash Tun: 1.5L
Water/Grain Ratio for the Mash: 3L/Kg
Wort Required for the Boil: 26.5L
Made up from two equal quantities of: 13.3L
Total Quantity of Water Required For Batch #1: 19.1L
Mash Volume: 12.9L
Top Up With: 6.2L
Water Required for Batch #2: 13.3L

fivetide

Post by fivetide » Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:36 pm

Really? So mash at 66 degrees for 90 mins as in recipe (so strike at say 68 degress with a nice hot MT?) but add first top up and second batch sparge at nearer 80 degrees?

fivetide

Post by fivetide » Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:46 pm

Excellent. Glad you're there DaaB. I'm definitely going ahead tonight, it's all set.

I had no idea quite how much grain 4.3Kg really was!

scarer

Post by scarer » Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:58 pm

Enjoy!

It will be a late night then :shock:


:)

fivetide

Post by fivetide » Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:59 pm

Yeah, I'll add pictures tomorrow! Quite exciting, your first time, innit?

scarer

Post by scarer » Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:14 pm

It's all go, you think you've got loads of time- an hour here, 90 mins there but I was always doing something and I was shattered afterwards so you will definitely sleep well tonight!!

Looking forward to the photos :)

scarer

Post by scarer » Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:22 pm

Oh, I also have the same Burco as you with a similar hop strainer that comes straight out of the tap.

I now tilt the boiler forward carefully as soon as the level allows when I'm running off the wort into the fermenting bin to get as much out as possible. I didn't think to do this on my first brew and lost around 2 litres. I use books to keep it propped up, not particularly elegant I know!

You don't need to do this if you've managed to fit some sort of bend pipe or elbow to lower the strainer. I haven't got round to this yet :roll:

sllimeel

Post by sllimeel » Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:25 pm

Good luck, you will enjoy it :D and look forward to your photos.

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Post by Stonechat » Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:28 pm

Good luck for your first AG brew. I'm sure it will taste great a few weeks from now.

AT

Post by AT » Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:39 pm

Good luck with your first brew :wink:

fivetide

Post by fivetide » Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:49 pm

All doughed in, mash on at 6:40pm

12.9L, strike temp 73ish, mashing at 66.5 degrees

PH somewhere between 5 and 6 (was pretty much 7 flat from the tap)

Remembered half a Campden in liquor.

prodigal2

Post by prodigal2 » Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:50 pm

You will have a blast Fivetide 8)

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