Basic Recipies. . .

[Walrus81]

As a base for experiement, for example a basic light, dark and med recipe and porter?


I'm thinking, for light,dark and med recipe use either light med or dark malt.
Hops for example goldings.

Hop for 90 mins, add more last 15 mins of boil then leave to ferment and rack et voila basic light/med/dark beer to use as a base.

Just looking into starting my own base and adapting "basic light beer" to something more interesting or to mimic comercial brews?


Hope that sort of makes sense.

So what would be needed for the most basic porter?

[prolix]

Walrus if you are going to boil for 90mins you can throw crystal chocolate and black malt into the boil

something like mark Ollossons Market porter

2.5kg lme
0.325 crystal
0.12 chocolate
0.12 roast barley
80g golden syrup at the hour
northdown 42g 90min
northdown 8g 15min

[Russ]

I'd reccomend you get a copy of Mark Ollossons book, some great recipes in there well worth the money!

eg. Styrian stunner - a dead simple and tastey pale ale-just extract and Styrian Goldings. With my extracts I do a short boil- just for 30 mins, works fine, I've been doing this for a while on DaaB's advice some time ago.

Also If using Crystal, Roast Barley, Chocolate malt or Carapils I just get all water to 77oC and steep the grains in a grain bag for 30 mins, remove these then add the extract and boil for 30 mins adding hops at start of boil and in last 15 mins etc as per recipie.

Made some great beers this way, infact If I could still source cheap bulk extract (Currently using the last of my Panes Marris Otter- 25kg for £50) I wouldn't be moving AG (but that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it )

[Walrus81]

Cheers for the reply,

So do in general when using crystal or choc malt do I need to add for 90 mins?

Also what quantity is that porter recipe?

Re the boiling for 30 mins, I will boil for 30 mins, I'm guess you get pretty similar results but it does not take so long!

Many thanks.

[Russ]

If your using a grain that does not need mashing (Crystal, Chocloate, and Black Malt and Roasted Barley and Carapils) Then steeping for 30 mins (at 77oC) is all that is required. They are then removed as I believe boiling these can extract undesirable flavours, if I can find the link where it was talked about this I'll post it. Then add the extract, get back to the boil then add hops and boil for 30 mins.

This is the method I follow for my extracts, except I make 6 gallon batches each time and use bulk extract:

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bit about steeping grains:

viewtopic.php?t=4414&highlight=boiling+grains

Hope this helps

[Walrus81]

Can I use Crushed Wheat Malt in the same way as choc?

Cheers

[Russ]

I'm not 100% sure but I don't think you can as I believe it needs mashing. The only ones I've come across while doing extracts are the one's I mentioned previously.

[Walrus81]

thanks, Order wheat by mistake, Anyway to sort of mash them on the hob that anyone can think of?

[prolix]

the reciepe is for 23l

Mark Ollosson says to put the grains in at the start