Videne dilution concentrations & corny question

[yashicamat]

I intend on using some videne solution to sanitise my cornies as my research on here shows VWP isn't a good idea for anything stainless. The rate of 1.25ml per litre seems to be oft quoted as a "no rinse" sanitiser.

Am I right in thinking that just a few minutes contact time should be sufficient, then upturn and drip dry? Or presumably rinsing with cold water could be used to get rid of the videne more quickly? I'm also wondering if this is a better bet for sanitising my FVs too as it seems so easy. Is it as effective as VWP? Or rather more importantly, is it good enough?

Finally, just a few questions about corny-specific sanitising; the lid and corny itself are obviously easy enough, but should the disconnect posts and poppets be removed and sanitised? Also should the disconnects themselves be sanitised? Final question is on the gas side of the system - what needs sanitising there? Does one go all the way back to the regulator because I can't see how to sanitise that.

Cheers.

[Aleman]

IAm I right in thinking that just a few minutes contact time should be sufficient,

The official FDA/EPA time is 20 minutes . . . . but that is because the official FDA/EPA test is comparative to a bleach sanitiser soak for 20 minutes . . . there is no shorter time. . . . . around 30 seconds is considered effective

then upturn and drip dry? Or presumably rinsing with cold water could be used to get rid of the videne more quickly? I'm also wondering if this is a better bet for sanitising my FVs too as it seems so easy. Is it as effective as VWP? Or rather more importantly, is it good enough?

It is as effective as VWP at disinfecting, but it is not a cleaner, so clean the corny first then sanitise. FWIW I fill my cornii with a videne solution, then put the lid on seal, and blow the videne into another corny . . . Cornii sanitised and purged

Finally, just a few questions about corny-specific sanitising; the lid and corny itself are obviously easy enough, but should the disconnect posts and poppets be removed and sanitised? Also should the disconnects themselves be sanitised? [/quote]
Well Duh! Fill the keg, pressurise, then blow a little out of the beer out . . . invert and run some out of the gas in. Leave for a short time, then empty. . . . every now and again I remove teh posts and boil them or put them in the pressure cooker . . . If the poppets come out then they are removed and boiled separately.

Disconnects I push sanitiser through, and on occasion dismantle, and brush clean, with sanitiser.

Final question is on the gas side of the system - what needs sanitising there? Does one go all the way back to the regulator because I can't see how to sanitise that.

If I get beer up the line Then I flush the gas line with peracetic (I have one way valves on my regs ) or videne, and blow it out with CO2 then fit the disconnect.

[Parva]

I've just done 3 cornies with Videne and filled them with beer, never had problems with it. I used to leave the posts intact, put 2 litres of Videne solution in, shake then pump it out under pressure. I'd strip the cornie after every third brew.

However, I figured that over time this might be a bit wasteful on the CO2 so now I strip the posts down, chuck them and short dip-tube and lid into Videne solution for 20-30 seconds, take posts and stuff out and pour some directly down the long dip-tube and then chuck the rest into the keg. Put posts (and short dip-tube) back on, lid on, shake, drain for a minute then it's ready to have the air purged with a little CO2 (after re-tightening the posts) then fill. Not had any issues.

[yashicamat]

Cheers for the replies folks.

Yep Chris, I found it about 5 minutes after making this thread. Useful references for the dilutions though, cheers.

Rang Tesco up about an hour ago and they said they'd get some videne in for me by 11am tomorrow! Service!

[adm]

Pretty much the same as the above really.....

Clean (I normally use Bruclean & hot water), rinse then add a few litres of no-rinse sanitiser solution, shake and then blow it through using CO2.

If you're doing multiple cornies, just use the same solution for each corny in turn. You can either transfer via the lids, or a piece of tube with two black disconnects on it via the beer out posts.

Also - it's worthwhile to connect up the corny to your tap(s) and then blow the solution through the lines and taps to clean those as well.

Waste not, want not!

[yashicamat]

Pretty much the same as the above really.....

Clean (I normally use Bruclean & hot water), rinse then add a few litres of no-rinse sanitiser solution, shake and then blow it through using CO2.

If you're doing multiple cornies, just use the same solution for each corny in turn. You can either transfer via the lids, or a piece of tube with two black disconnects on it via the beer out posts.

Also - it's worthwhile to connect up the corny to your tap(s) and then blow the solution through the lines and taps to clean those as well.

Waste not, want not!

Yep that sounds like good advice too. All the bits will be arriving tomorrow for the cornies. Only thing is I could only obtain 1m of 3/16 line, so I'll have to see if that's effective enough. Might need to find another source for it though . . . I feel another barleybottom order coming on.