I'm tempted to do AG

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Benson_JV

Re: I'm tempted to do AG

Post by Benson_JV » Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:55 pm

Will do, thanks Steve :)

I need a job, this equipment lark is expensive #-o

Benson_JV

Re: I'm tempted to do AG

Post by Benson_JV » Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:05 pm

Parents are now okay with me brewing AG as long as i pay myself #-o
Went to get a Argos coolbox today, the £14.99 one, sold out :evil:

I'm going to pop into hooties on the weekend. Is there any problem with using any old cool-box that's large enough?

boingy

Re: I'm tempted to do AG

Post by boingy » Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:18 pm

The quality of the insulation varies, especially on the cheaper ones, but it's nothing that an old coat/quilt/sleeping bag cannot cure.
If you are on a severely limited budget you can syphon the wort out of the mash tun rather than fit a tap but will still have to arrange a grain strainer of some sort to stop the syphon tube from blocking.

sparky Paul

Re: I'm tempted to do AG

Post by sparky Paul » Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:25 pm

Benson_JV wrote:Went to get a Argos coolbox today, the £14.99 one, sold out :evil:

I'm going to pop into hooties on the weekend. Is there any problem with using any old cool-box that's large enough?
What about going down the 'camping mat insulated fermenter' route? I think that works out quite cheap, and they are very effective.

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Benson_JV

Re: I'm tempted to do AG

Post by Benson_JV » Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:34 pm

Hmm an interesting point Paul.

The 7 gallon FV would be suitable would it not, with a ball valve, or perhaps even with the original? I heard that the ball valves are better though?
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Thanks Guys!

sparky Paul

Re: I'm tempted to do AG

Post by sparky Paul » Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:50 pm

Benson_JV wrote:The 7 gallon FV would be suitable would it not, with a ball valve?
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That's exactly what I was considering, I've got one of those same buckets sat doing nothing. 8)

Benson_JV

Re: I'm tempted to do AG

Post by Benson_JV » Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:52 pm

I would say how much do you want for it :twisted:
Except i think postage would kill me off :lol:

I think then, that i shall buy one of those, stick with the old tap for a while til i get money, and use Daabs plate :)

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Re: I'm tempted to do AG

Post by yashicamat » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:10 pm

Ball valves are nice but not essential. For a mash tun, you could probably get away with the standard white top tap fitted on FVs, but ideally it should be the black top one.

Ball valves can cost quite a bit once all the fittings are in - I have ball valves on my boiler and HLT, but the only reason for the boiler was because the orange tap on it kept coming loose (and I was redesigning the strainer anyway so thought may as well change it) and the HLT had no tap and I wanted a precise control on it.

You're welcome to the orange tap I've got if you want (suitable for boiling liquids etc.), but you'll need to source a backnut and a washer for it. There's nothing wrong with it per se, I just wanted to improve on it. :)
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Re: I'm tempted to do AG

Post by Benson_JV » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:22 pm

Well to begin with then i'll stick with the original fittings.

Thanks for the offer yashicamat! I'll see what i can do when i get more money, then i might get that one off you, and fit a Ball valve tap to the boiler. :twisted:
Just have to wait for that friend of mine to come back from holiday so i can get him to order the 60L bucket from H&G for the boiler for me :)

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Re: I'm tempted to do AG

Post by yashicamat » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:28 pm

Benson_JV wrote:Well to begin with then i'll stick with the original fittings.

Thanks for the offer yashicamat! I'll see what i can do when i get more money, then i might get that one off you, and fit a Ball valve tap to the boiler. :twisted:
Just have to wait for that friend of mine to come back from holiday so i can get him to order the 60L bucket from H&G for the boiler for me :)
No problem. It doesn't save you much but every penny counts when you're trying to fund a hobby with no income! My main hobby (and still is a main one) at your age was photography, you can imagine how much fun that was to try and buy things for! Remember this was pre-digital too, so I was buying reels of film, developing liquids etc. :lol:
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POTTER BREWERY (mothballed 2020)

Fermenting: nowt (sadly). Drinking: still a few bottles of my imperial stout knocking about . . . it's rather good now

Benson_JV

Re: I'm tempted to do AG

Post by Benson_JV » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:30 pm

Ouch, i can imagine that was fun spendings :shock:

my hobbies seem to be the most expensive. I'm an avid audio technician/musician, so i've spent well over a grand or so on instruments/amps/etc
and now brewing as well :twisted:

Just have to talk my dad now into ordering the mashtun FV from hop & grape for me #-o

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Re: I'm tempted to do AG

Post by yashicamat » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:38 pm

Benson_JV wrote:Ouch, i can imagine that was fun spendings :shock:

my hobbies seem to be the most expensive. I'm an avid audio technician/musician, so i've spent well over a grand or so on instruments/amps/etc
and now brewing as well :twisted:

Just have to talk my dad now into ordering the mashtun FV from hop & grape for me #-o
I'm sure you'll sort it out. Yep, I'm much the same too, guitarist here with similar spend issues :lol: .
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POTTER BREWERY (mothballed 2020)

Fermenting: nowt (sadly). Drinking: still a few bottles of my imperial stout knocking about . . . it's rather good now

Benson_JV

Re: I'm tempted to do AG

Post by Benson_JV » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:41 pm

Let's hope this AG business is as good as you guys say it is :wink:

Thanks for the help so far guys, i'll keep you updated :)

Parva

Re: I'm tempted to do AG

Post by Parva » Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:09 am

Benson_JV wrote:Let's hope this AG business is as good as you guys say it is :wink:

Thanks for the help so far guys, i'll keep you updated :)
I've done kits many years ago and it was always 'homebrew', it had that twang and whilst I was happy to drink beer for 20p a bottle or whatever it never matched even the lowest beer I could get at the pub. Having been made redundant and getting a sum of cash I decided to wander into AG brewing and I can safely say that everything I produce is at least as good as anything Wetherspoons will serve and probably miles better!

You'll never look back!

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Re: I'm tempted to do AG

Post by Benson_JV » Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:03 pm

Right Here's a list of what i plan to get:

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7 Gallon Bucket With Tap - Mash Tun - Hop & Grape - £11.99

10 Gallon Bucket With Element & Ball Valve Holes - Boiler - Hop & Grape - £17.99 (Providing holes done by John = free)

Shallow Plastic Plate - Grain Stop - Camping Shop - 99p

Brass Tank Connecter - Grain Stop - Screwfix - £1.49

Copper - Immersion Chiller/Misc Piping - Cheapest Place

Kettle Elements - Boiler - Argos - £4.79 x2
Is that all that i need (apart from ingredients :wink: ) to start?

How much copper & what size for the IC and Daab's mash tun false bottom?

Thanks!

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