Final volume

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Final volume

Post by spencerwood » Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:22 am

Hi,

I’ve not brewed before and yesterday, my wife and I went straight in for our first all grain brew.

The recipe was very similar to Jims tutorial one except I used 3.0kg of pale and 0.5kg of crystal as that was convenient as that was the sizes of the packets. I used the beer engine calculator to figure out how much extra sugar to add to make it up to about 4.4% from around 3.8%. So all is good and it’s just starting to froth in the fermenting bin.

I took a reading on the hydrometer just as we were tapping it into the bin from the boiler and it was 1051 and this seemed too high. I only had about 17 litres in the bin though after tapping and so I used the “dilution calculator” to work out I needed to add about 3 litres to get it where it needed to be. I used boiled and cooled water and added this to the bin. The yeast had already been in there about an hour or so and hopefully will be ok.

When I went back to the beer engine, in the “results” panel (top right), it says Total Liquor = 31.8 litres required to make 23 litres of final produce. I presume this figure of 31.8 accounts for all the various losses?

Jims tutorial said mash with 2.8g which is what I did but he didn’t say how much to sparge with, so I went for 3g thinking that gives me about a gallon in hand to cover the losses but it wasn’t enough. With hindsight, this was about 1 gallon short given the 31.8 litres beer engine says. However, I would have had trouble getting this amount in the boiler.

So I know I needed to get 31.8 litres in somewhere, and the method I happened to use (but was the only option available to me at that stage) was to add pre-boiled water to the fermenting bin at the end. This was actually quite good as it allowed me to add just the 3 litres I needed to take me to the gravity I wanted and I ended up then with 20 litres instead of 23 after efficiency loses (mine was only about 74.3%). I seemed to lose loads in the hops, I cooled it fast and had used irish moss towards the end of the boil, and my understanding with those two is that they can cause a load of sludge to form in the bottom of the boiler mixed in with the spent hops so I must have lost about 2 litres there at least. By the time I've lost another litre or so in sludge at the bottom of the fermenting bin when i syphon it off, and then another litre in the barrel there will hardly be anything left :-(

Does all the above make sense? Is my understanding of the Total Liquor correct? What other choices could I have taken, could I have sparged with more or added boiling water to the boil to keep it topped up? Any other tips would be great.

Cheers


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Re: Final volume

Post by Eric » Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:04 am

Hi Spencer,

You are making perfect sense. The answer to all your questions can be yes. There is more to learn, but that is true for everyone.

Your "hindsight", as you put it, will serve you well for future brews.

A lot of good brewers would be very happy to have had a first experience like yours. When's your next brewday?
Without patience, life becomes difficult and the sooner it's finished, the better.

spencerwood

Re: Final volume

Post by spencerwood » Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:46 am

Hi,

Thanks for your comments.

My next brew could be as early as this coming weekend. I just need to buy a second barrel and a third fermenting bin. If I CO2 inject them as well they should last a while and I'll be able to have a drinking choice. I'll just try and get my water quantities right this time as I'll have <17 litres of the first batch in my 5 gallon barrel by the time its in there - less drinking - not good.



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Re: Final volume

Post by Duncndisorderly » Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:51 am

Sounds like it all went pretty well, i had a similar issue to this on my 1st brew so when i made my second i boiled an extra 15 litres and had it on reserve, in the end i used about 7 litres or so but it was well worth the extra hassle in the end, its better too have extra left over than to need more and the other benefit i fould was the remaining boiled water was great jump off for starting the wash down of my kit afterwards

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