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by WishboneBrewery » Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:42 pm
At some point within my next 4 brews I'll probably try a TT Landlord clone from the recipe in the GW book.
Is there any tweaking of the recipe that could be done to get as close as possible to the real stuff?
I'm in Keighley area so I won't be needing any water treatment, but I've got Bobek hops rather than the Styrian Goldings, is this going to make a major difference?
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Other brews within my 4 will most likely be a Fuggles version of Horden Hillbilly's House Bitter, a Black Sheep Ale, and my Otter Dark Stout recipe as an AG 
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by rick_huggins » Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:44 pm
I made mine with Bobeks and it's very drinkable; like most I've done from GWs bible
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by towser » Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:11 am
I've made two TTL's now - both with Safale-04. It was ok and very quaffable but not like the real thing IMO - I think that maybe down to the S04. Much preferred the Jennings Cumberland (by a mile in all honesty). The Black Sheep Ale is also a class beer out of GW's book.
Maybe I just like the torrefied wheat additions (as I think it softens the beer somewhat).
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by mysterio » Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:34 am
Bobeks are great, very similar to regular styrians. They beer can seem quite grapefruity when its fresh but mellows out nicely
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by Bobba » Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:37 am
I brewed this with Brakspear yeast (from Oxford gold bottle) and it was amazing! Perhaps a bit fruitier than the original
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by WishboneBrewery » Thu Jul 30, 2009 4:23 pm
Thanks guys
The recipe on Hopandgrain.com differers a bit with fuggles in the mix and no late styrians either, has anyone used this recipe and done a comparison?
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Timothy Taylor Landlord
Batch Size: 25 litres
Original Gravity: 1042
Final Gravity: 1009
Alcohol Content: 4.4 %
Total Grains: 4,660 gm
Color: 10 EBC 6SRM
IBUs: 35
Grain Bill
4,460 golden promise pale malt
Hop Bill:
styrian goldings hops 42gm (90 mins)
fuggles hops 35 gm (90 mins)
goldings hops 15gm (15 mins)
irish moss 10 gm (15 mins)
Mash Schedule:
90 mins at 66c (151F)

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by Jymbo » Sat Aug 22, 2009 5:21 pm
towser wrote:I've made two TTL's now - both with Safale-04. It was ok and very quaffable but not like the real thing IMO - I think that maybe down to the S04.
I was thinking the same thing so I tried my latest TTL (from latest edition of GW) with WLP028 and it turned out superb. The yeast leaves enough sugars to give a great malt taste and it doesn't mask out the hops either. Since the Wyeast TTL yeast is seasonal, I'd say this yeast is an excellent replacement when it's not available.
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by WishboneBrewery » Sat Aug 22, 2009 6:46 pm
WLP028 OK, sounds good... I can get a Trappist yeast at the same time and maybe some Styrians

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by mysterio » Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:05 pm
PDTNC, just noticed you have a beer with Burton Ale yeast in your FV, how about just repitching some of that yeast into your TTL ?
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by WishboneBrewery » Mon Aug 24, 2009 9:34 am
Could do, I have 3 splits of that yeast left in the Fridge and I'm planning to collect a jar full of slurry from the bottom of the Black Sheep.
It could be 2 or 3 weeks before I decide to brew again so would the slurry be OK for that long? (less than 4 Deg C under a bit of beer)
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by Whorst » Mon Aug 24, 2009 7:05 pm
I'm going to brew a TTL clone possibly this week with UK-05. I'll brew it to 1.036 and boil the &*^%$ out of the first runnings to get around 1.042-1.044. I'll also mash a little higher so it's not bone dry.
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by Scooby » Mon Aug 24, 2009 7:56 pm
Good tip from Whorst, I had good results boiling a large stock pot down to caramelise it, you really have to reduce it, get a nice dark thick syrup like consistency and add it back into the rest of the boil.
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by WishboneBrewery » Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:04 pm
So the first few litres (3 or 4??) should be boiled the heck out of until you get a sticky mess?
When would you add this to the rest of the boil then? about half way through?
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by edit1now » Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:20 pm
If the slurry goes into a sanitised container in the fridge it should be fine for a few weeks - put clingfilm over it and you might see it still fermenting slowly, and blowing the clingfilm up into a bubble...
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by WishboneBrewery » Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:32 pm
I suppose cling-film goes down better than redecorating the inside of the fridge with slurry and shards of glass
