Alternative for cara-pils

[Deebee]

I made an order for some carapils from my normal supplier before Christmas.

Nearly a month on there is still not a reply or any supplies.

I have chance to brew next week and would really like to use the cara-pils to add a bit of body to the brew.

Uis there anything I can use instead as a back up in case the carapils does not arrive?

Thanks

[dave-o]

I would happily just use normal cara or crystal. Can't see it making much of a difference, but someone please cotrrect me if i'm wrong.

[Deebee]

I would happily just use normal cara or crystal. Can't see it making much of a difference, but someone please cotrrect me if i'm wrong.

I already have crystal in the mix.. about 200 grams. was going to have 200 carapils as recommended on another of my threads.

Should i just up the crystal?

[delboy]

I would happily just use normal cara or crystal. Can't see it making much of a difference, but someone please cotrrect me if i'm wrong.

I already have crystal in the mix.. about 200 grams. was going to have 200 carapils as recommended on another of my threads.

Should i just up the crystal?

What is the style/beer you are aiming for and what else do you have in your stocks or can readily lay your hands on.

[Reaper]

Caramalt and Carapils are the same thing just sold under a different name if that helps, I think its Tucker that call it Carapils.

Paul

[Deebee]

I would happily just use normal cara or crystal. Can't see it making much of a difference, but someone please cotrrect me if i'm wrong.

I already have crystal in the mix.. about 200 grams. was going to have 200 carapils as recommended on another of my threads.

Should i just up the crystal?

What is the style/beer you are aiming for and what else do you have in your stocks or can readily lay your hands on.

Hi.

its an IPA

here is the recipe

Pale 3520
Light crystal 345
cara-pils 200
torrified wheat 250

HOPS

22g target ( 13 %) for 60
35 g Fuggles 8 4.1%) for 10
20 cascade (5.5%) for 5
25 g Fuggles ( 4.1) for 5
35 fuggles (4.1%) at flame out
30 g Cascade (5.5%) at flame out

I have both dark and light crystal and some wheat malt, chocolate and black.

the last beer i made ( styrian stunner) was a little thin and it has been mentioned that i should add some cara pils to the mix in this thread.http://jimsbeerkit.co.uk/forum/viewtopi ... =5&t=29102 thread by 6470 Ozzy

[delboy]

If it was me i'd just throw in 500g of the light crystal and get it brewed but if you have a bit more patience you could order some caramalt from barleybottom (reaper in one of the above replies), he's very reasonable and provides a top notch service.

[Deebee]

If it was me i'd just throw in 500g of the light crystal and get it brewed but if you have a bit more patience you could order some caramalt from barleybottom (reaper in one of the above replies), he's very reasonable and provides a top notch service.

I order from Paul . But libving in Norway it takes its time.

the other thing is i need to be able to brew when the war ofice approves. she approves next week, i need to brew.

maybe i'll just bung in another 150 crystal and hope its not too cloying.

[delboy]

If it was me i'd just throw in 500g of the light crystal and get it brewed but if you have a bit more patience you could order some caramalt from barleybottom (reaper in one of the above replies), he's very reasonable and provides a top notch service.

I order from Paul . But libving in Norway it takes its time.

the other thing is i need to be able to brew when the war ofice approves. she approves next week, i need to brew.

maybe i'll just bung in another 150 crystal and hope its not too cloying.

I should be ok with the amount of ibus you'll be throwing at it. Should make a nice beer if it isn't to your tastes though make a note of the percentage of crystal used in the recipe and tweak downwards on future brews, You are brewing to your own tastes and it'll take a little bit of time to find out just what it is you want in a beer but it all comes with experience.

[coatesg]

Caramalt and Carapils are the same thing just sold under a different name if that helps, I think its Tucker that call it Carapils.

Not quite - carapils is lighter than caramalt (3-5EBC vs ~25EBC); carapils supposedly adds body, whereas caramalt is slightly sweeter. It probably won't make much difference given there's a fairly high proportion of light crystal already, and that looks like a hop-focused beer . You could just mash a little higher to get some more body in and replace with normal pale malt and a tad (50g?) more light crystal perhaps.

[Deebee]

Caramalt and Carapils are the same thing just sold under a different name if that helps, I think its Tucker that call it Carapils.

Not quite - carapils is lighter than caramalt (3-5EBC vs ~25EBC); carapils supposedly adds body, whereas caramalt is slightly sweeter. It probably won't make much difference given there's a fairly high proportion of light crystal already, and that looks like a hop-focused beer . You could just mash a little higher to get some more body in and replace with normal pale malt and a tad (50g?) more light crystal perhaps.

I am trying to make it a hop bomb, especially as i want it to condition for a few months ( til the summer ish).

The guy has just got in touch saying the stuff i ordered was not sent before christmas as post was a bit rank ( we have had almost 90 cm snow since around 20th december here)

It was sent yesterday meaning it should be here for the time i have to brew sao i'll have the amount of carapils i want in the mix.

i was hoping at mashing around the 67 mark . should i keep it like this, or slightly higher ?

Are there any comments to the hops or schedule. Does it all sound ok and tastey?

[delboy]

I wouldn't go any higher than 67C especially as you are now going with the original recipe which has 545g of crystal/carapils to add body.

[Deebee]

small typo in the recipe.. its 454 total crystal and carapils.