Cloudy Beer

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MandyC

Cloudy Beer

Post by MandyC » Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:50 pm

Hi
I'm new to brewing. I've got a batch of Woodforde's Wherry on the go. I followed instructions and transferred the beer to a pressure barrel after the initial fermentation and moved it from the kitchen (warmish) to the garage (cold).
The beer has been in the garage for three weeks now and is still pretty cloudy (it tastes OK though). Is this because it's been very cold? Am I just being impatient!?. Should I use finings or similar?
All advice gratefully received.
Cheers
Mandy (Cambridgeshire)

barl_fire

Re: Cloudy Beer

Post by barl_fire » Sat Feb 13, 2010 5:17 pm

MandyC wrote:Hi
I'm new to brewing. I've got a batch of Woodforde's Wherry on the go. I followed instructions and transferred the beer to a pressure barrel after the initial fermentation and moved it from the kitchen (warmish) to the garage (cold).
The beer has been in the garage for three weeks now and is still pretty cloudy (it tastes OK though). Is this because it's been very cold? Am I just being impatient!?. Should I use finings or similar?
All advice gratefully received.
Cheers
Mandy (Cambridgeshire)
Hi Mandy, this sounds normal for a Wherry, many people seem to have the same experience with it. Mine was only just starting to look clear at 4 weeks as the last couple of pints were being drained from the keg :lol: It tastes great even early on though. I too wondered about chill haze, but bringing a pint in from the cold and letting it warm up made no difference with mine. You could leave it another month an it'll probably be clear by then and will taste fantastic, however if you're anything like me you'll want to start drinking it now and it'll do you no harm if you do, enjoy! I say :)
Personally I wouldn't bother with finings now as I can't see it making a massive difference, I used finings early on with mine and it made no difference whatsoever.

Cheshire-cheese

Re: Cloudy Beer

Post by Cheshire-cheese » Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:30 pm

out of curiosity, which finings and when did you use them?

barl_fire

Re: Cloudy Beer

Post by barl_fire » Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:51 pm

Cheshire-cheese wrote:out of curiosity, which finings and when did you use them?
it was a youngs sachet, I'd already primed the keg, but when it was showing no signs of clearing after a week conditioning, I chucked some in, and re-gassed, waste of time though. Probably I should have racked then used them before I primed though.

micromaniac

Re: Cloudy Beer

Post by micromaniac » Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:43 pm

MandyC wrote:Hi
I'm new to brewing. I've got a batch of Woodforde's Wherry on the go. I followed instructions and transferred the beer to a pressure barrel after the initial fermentation and moved it from the kitchen (warmish) to the garage (cold).
The beer has been in the garage for three weeks now and is still pretty cloudy (it tastes OK though). Is this because it's been very cold? Am I just being impatient!?. Should I use finings or similar?
All advice gratefully received.
Cheers
Mandy (Cambridgeshire)
done three wherrys and keged all three. :pink: took an age to clear but mines about 12 weeks in keg before i drink it and it is clear by then .....its a bostin brew :pink:

Cheshire-cheese

Re: Cloudy Beer

Post by Cheshire-cheese » Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:56 pm

barl_fire wrote: ...it was a youngs sachet, I'd already primed the keg, but when it was showing no signs of clearing after a week conditioning, I chucked some in, and re-gassed, waste of time though. Probably I should have racked then used them before I primed though.
I've not used the Youngs finings, I'm pretty sure they're not gelatine finings which, IMO, will clear almost without fail (chill haze will need a different approach)
As far as I'm aware there's nothing wrong with adding finings later if you forget to add them at the start.

MandyC

Re: Cloudy Beer

Post by MandyC » Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:10 pm

Hi to all

I drew off a glass and left it to warm up overnight. It didn't make a lot of difference, maybe a bit clearer. Think I'll just have to be patient. Grrr!
I'll just have to start off another batch of something to keep me occupied.

Cheers
Mandy

darrenwest1

Re: Cloudy Beer

Post by darrenwest1 » Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:15 pm

ive just put my third wherry in to a pressure keg this morning and the first 2 really took 8 weeks to be really clear
so if you can just leave it alone and let it do its thing you wont be sorry its a cracking pint
good luck

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Re: Cloudy Beer

Post by fractureman » Sun Feb 14, 2010 5:46 pm

I've done about 8 wherrys & all have been clear in about 4 weeks, I have a few kegs so don;t start until it's been in the keg for about 6 weeks though
keg 1 : (Drinking) : Amarillo extract brew
keg 2 : (Conditioning) : Summer Ale extract
keg 3 : (Conditioning) : Lightening extract Goldings only
keg 4 : (Conditioning) : Lightening etxract

FV1 : FV2 :
Bottled: Brewferm Diabolo, Brewferm frambois
next up: coppers stout:)

Trunky

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Re: Cloudy Beer

Post by fractureman » Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:21 am

moved onto extract now so don;t have probs with wherry anymore, I leave mine to condition for a bit in the assumption I get differing flavours. With 5 kegs now I have a steady supply so usually 6 weeks each brew gets before I sup :D
keg 1 : (Drinking) : Amarillo extract brew
keg 2 : (Conditioning) : Summer Ale extract
keg 3 : (Conditioning) : Lightening extract Goldings only
keg 4 : (Conditioning) : Lightening etxract

FV1 : FV2 :
Bottled: Brewferm Diabolo, Brewferm frambois
next up: coppers stout:)

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Re: Cloudy Beer

Post by brewjohn » Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:41 pm

I have the same problem with most 2 can kits. Just done a Fixby Gold and that looked very cloudy coming out of the can !! I did an experiment . I boiled 2 cans of Coopers extract ( 3 KG )
with a few hops and got a bitter that cleared in days instead of weeks. I also noticed the extract was a lot clearer than the fixby gold when coming out of the can so i think the problem is in the mashing ?

hoppinmad

Re: Cloudy Beer

Post by hoppinmad » Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:01 pm

i have just brewed (and drunk) a woodfordes nelsons revenge kit and it cleared nicely in the pressure barrel in a few days :| , can't say it would have stopped me drinking it tho if it had been a bit cloudy, previous to returning to brewing i have been buying baltas lithuanian wheat beer which is cloudy and rather good =P~

MandyC

Re: Cloudy Beer

Post by MandyC » Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:40 am

Hi to all

The beer was showing signs of clearing but, when I drew off a pint, there was still some yeasty sediment. The beer does clear a bit if kept at RT overnight so I think I have a combination of the cold and impatience.
I'm going to leave it a bit longer but it tastes really good so its hard to resist!!

Cheers

Mandy

EoinMag

Re: Cloudy Beer

Post by EoinMag » Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:05 am

MandyC wrote:Hi to all

The beer was showing signs of clearing but, when I drew off a pint, there was still some yeasty sediment. The beer does clear a bit if kept at RT overnight so I think I have a combination of the cold and impatience.
I'm going to leave it a bit longer but it tastes really good so its hard to resist!!

Cheers

Mandy
Hi Mandy, it sounds like chill haze, that should go away with extended cold conditioning, basically a few weeks at a low temp will precipitate it out.

It's not a major problem. only a presentation issue, so drink away if you want.

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