AG 4 problem or not???

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kay-jay

AG 4 problem or not???

Post by kay-jay » Thu May 13, 2010 8:57 am

hi

so yesterday i brewed my 4th ag brew. everything went as smooth as the previous 3, except for the horrifying moment at the end when i was cleaning up and found the cup with my irish moss in it!

does this mean that my beer won't clear at all? or just slower? how much slower? and is there any thing i can add or do at any stage to get it back on track??

thanks in advance chaps

KJ :D

Hawkinspm

Re: AG 4 problem or not???

Post by Hawkinspm » Thu May 13, 2010 9:21 am

I've done this before and found it just took longer ( probably by a few weeks), so definitely not a problem if you have the patience or don't mind beer with a slight haze.

I'm sure someone brighter will be along with what you can do to speed this up, I just left mine and added it ( more than once #-o ) to my list of silly mistakes...

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Re: AG 4 problem or not???

Post by OldSpeckledBadger » Thu May 13, 2010 9:24 am

It should be OK. It won't affect the rate of clearing - that is dependent on the yeast strain. You may get a chill haze.
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grmills

Re: AG 4 problem or not???

Post by grmills » Thu May 13, 2010 9:47 am

Not worth worrying about.

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Re: AG 4 problem or not???

Post by Andy__ » Thu May 13, 2010 12:40 pm

OldSpeckledBadger wrote:It should be OK. It won't affect the rate of clearing - that is dependent on the yeast strain. You may get a chill haze.
Yes I agree with this. I have also forgot the Irish Moss more than once.

The IM removed protien so you should only notice the difference when the beers chilled.

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Re: AG 4 problem or not???

Post by OldSpeckledBadger » Thu May 13, 2010 12:51 pm

Andy__ wrote:The IM removed protien so you should only notice the difference when the beers chilled.
And maybe not even then. The cold break will happen to an extent without IM.

Plus you only ever chill crap beer (to kill it's awful taste).
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Re: AG 4 problem or not???

Post by micromaniac » Thu May 13, 2010 8:21 pm

picked this tip up somewhere which i used twice now .when you bag your hops up ready for the brew put the irish moss in with the late hops. works me. that is unless i forget get the late hops.

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Re: AG 4 problem or not???

Post by Naich » Thu May 13, 2010 9:38 pm

I thought you had to re-hydrate IM first?

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Re: AG 4 problem or not???

Post by bellebouche » Fri May 14, 2010 8:37 am

I try and write up a work-sheet for each brew and update it with errors/steps missed every time I goof up.

My Favourite one? Make sure the ball-valve gate on the mash-tun is SHUT before pouring strike water!

kay-jay

Re: AG 4 problem or not???

Post by kay-jay » Fri May 14, 2010 9:23 am

i rehydrate my irish moss and usually place the cup next to my late hops so they can go in together. unfortunately on this occaision i left the cup at the side of the kettle #-o

KJ :lol:

boingy

Re: AG 4 problem or not???

Post by boingy » Fri May 14, 2010 9:38 am

Have you tried protofloc or whirlfloc, kj?
You'll never go back to irish moss and because it's a tablet you can add it with your 10 minute hops so it is harder to forget.

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Re: AG 4 problem or not???

Post by kay-jay » Fri May 14, 2010 10:16 am

i plan to try it boingy! but isn't it just the same kind of thing ...i'm sure i read in byobra that its seaweed based and adds a charge to the proteins and helps them drop out....which is what moss does isn't it?

i will try it tho

KJ :D

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Re: AG 4 problem or not???

Post by Horatio » Fri May 14, 2010 12:00 pm

Your right KJ, the carrageenan in them is negatively charged and the proteins are mostly positively charged so they clump together and fall out of suspension. I switched to Protafloc about 5 brews ago and it is a revelation! Even though it is the same active ingredient as Irish moss it seems to work much better. And being in handy tablet form it goes in with the late hops as previously said. I find it much more convenient to use. Highly recommended! :D
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Re: AG 4 problem or not???

Post by chris_reboot » Fri May 14, 2010 3:00 pm

I'm with Boingy and the others.
switch to protofloc tablets, and bin the IM.

stricltly speaking its the same stuff, but way better performing.
I think everyone who reads GW's book ends up doing the same thing.

there must be dozens of containers of 3/4 full IM lying around from people who have switched to protofloc or whirlfloc.

if anyone wants mine, they're welcome to it for the postage cost. :D

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