White Labs yeast advice for Abbot clone

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JonA

White Labs yeast advice for Abbot clone

Post by JonA » Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:29 am

I was going to try some White Labs yeast as a change from the stuff I usually use which is scrounged from a brewery - and I wondered if anyone would care to recommend a variety to go for, as I've never used WL yeast before. It will be going into an Abbot clone.

Also, if you think the english ale WLP002 is the one to go for, does it require any special treatment? - like rousing, as I see it's clasified as very highly floculent.

Thanks folks

steve_flack

Re: White Labs yeast advice for Abbot clone

Post by steve_flack » Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:14 am

It is very flocculent. I've not needed to rouse it - I pitch a lot of yeast and aerate very well. It is recommended that you leave the beer on the yeast for a couple of days after fermentation has finished for the yeast to clean up after itself. (although that's a good idea with any yeast).

JonA

Re: White Labs yeast advice for Abbot clone

Post by JonA » Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:33 am

steve_flack wrote:It is recommended that you leave the beer on the yeast for a couple of days after fermentation has finished for the yeast to clean up after itself. (although that's a good idea with any yeast).
HI Steve,

Just to clarify, I ferment about 4 days then rack to another FV then after about a week, lower the temperature to drop some yeast and transfer to keg. So would I need to leave the beer in the sec. FV for longer?

Cheers
Jon

steve_flack

Re: White Labs yeast advice for Abbot clone

Post by steve_flack » Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:39 am

I wouldn't rack this at all. It's a bottom fermenting ale yeast so if you rack/drop to secondary too early you'll most likely end up with a stuck fermentation.

JonA

Re: White Labs yeast advice for Abbot clone

Post by JonA » Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:57 am

ok thanks for that info, in your experience, about how long does it need in the primary before going to cask.

steve_flack

Re: White Labs yeast advice for Abbot clone

Post by steve_flack » Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:28 pm

This is what I did last time - bear in mind I bottled this beer so there's some extra steps. I would miss out the polyclar if I wasn't bottling. I use a conical fermenter so that makes yeast harvesting easier.

1) Primary fermentation (20C) - 3-4 days.
2) D-rest (20C) 1 day.
3) Pull yeast for re-use. Add dry hops
4) Rest at 20C for 3 more days and then pull yeast and hops - discard
5) Chill to 5C
6) Pull yeast. Treat with polyclar.
7) Rest for three days then pull more yeast
8) Fine with gelatine.
9) Rest for three days - pull yeast every day.
10) Rack completely bright beer to bottle or keg. Reseed bottles with S-04 and prime. Force carb kegs.

JonA

Re: White Labs yeast advice for Abbot clone

Post by JonA » Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:41 pm

Sounds good, I think I'll give that yeast a go, just miss out the polyclar as you say.

Cheers
Jon

Invalid Stout

Re: White Labs yeast advice for Abbot clone

Post by Invalid Stout » Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:46 pm

I find Greene King's house yeast is very distinctive so I don't think using another yeast is going to give you an Abbot-like result. Just my opinion though.


steve_flack

Re: White Labs yeast advice for Abbot clone

Post by steve_flack » Wed Jun 30, 2010 9:28 am

Do you know of any other brewers in Suffolk - particularly one in Southwold?

Not saying that that yeast is theirs as their yeast is a dual strain.

dave-o

Re: White Labs yeast advice for Abbot clone

Post by dave-o » Wed Jun 30, 2010 9:34 am

My mistake - it's Adnams isn't it.

JonA

Re: White Labs yeast advice for Abbot clone

Post by JonA » Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:45 am

That interesting - I didn't realise that the WL yeast were actual yeasts used by breweries - appreciate that they are not exact strain matches.
Is there a list of which WLP numbers come from what brewery strains?

JayM72

Re: White Labs yeast advice for Abbot clone

Post by JayM72 » Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:43 pm


coatesg

Re: White Labs yeast advice for Abbot clone

Post by coatesg » Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:58 pm

Though the strains are not exactly like the breweries they are supposed to come from - "Ringwood" ("WLP005") is another example (the original is several strains (~6?) all mixed in), Brakspear ("WLP023") is a dual-strain too, IIRC. Not to say that each of those yeasts doesn't make good beer :)

JonA

Re: White Labs yeast advice for Abbot clone

Post by JonA » Wed Jun 30, 2010 5:05 pm

That'll do it. Thanks

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