coopers clone
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aghuckle
coopers clone
Does anyone have any idea the base recipe for coopers lager or aust pale ale.I would like to play around with them .If the hops are POR what would be a suitale alternative
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dral
Re: coopers clone
Hi,
I do an Aussie Pale Ale based on the grain bill from the picture someone took of the Coopers whiteboard (see http://www.aussiehomebrewer.com/forum/i ... &hl=Aussie and scroll down to Matt's post about half way down). For the pale ale, the recipe calls for 4600 kg pale malt, 40 kg crystal malt and 200 kg wheat malt, which is roughly 95% pale malt, 4.2% wheat malt and 0.8% crystal malt. Apparently Coopers only use sugar for priming bottles, so to get the nice low FG of 1006 or below that this beer requires use a low mash temperature of 62-63 C.
Hops-wise, I got a load of POR from http://craftbrewer.com.au/ which I keep in the freezer for making this. The costs were reasonable, even taking into account postage, and they arrived quickly. Galena or Cluster are good substitutes (if you can get them), although I remember reading somewhere that any Hallertau could be used as a replacement. There's only one hop addition, at the beginning of the boil, and I go for 25-30 IBUs (apparently the dry finish and high carbonation reduces the bitterness a bit, so you may want to up this figure).
As far as yeasts go, I use dry yeast only (due to my brew days generally being last-minute affairs due to work and home commitments). Ritchies Real Ale Yeast is apparently the same stuff you get in Coopers kits (Mauri A514), so I go with that and get really good results. There's someone on ebay selling packs of four for about a fiver. I've also used Nottingham in the past which gave OK results, but I prefer the Ritchies stuff. I've never used wet yeast, so I can't give you any pointers there I'm afraid.
I always bottle this brew and prime using cane sugar. I like it nice and carbonated and so go for 3 volumes of CO2 (about 8 grams of sugar per litre).
I first brewed this for my missus who's a lager drinker (she doesn't do ale) and she absolutely loves it, but it's so good I drink it myself now - it's a perfect refreshing summer brew served nice and cold!
Hope this helps!
Al.
I do an Aussie Pale Ale based on the grain bill from the picture someone took of the Coopers whiteboard (see http://www.aussiehomebrewer.com/forum/i ... &hl=Aussie and scroll down to Matt's post about half way down). For the pale ale, the recipe calls for 4600 kg pale malt, 40 kg crystal malt and 200 kg wheat malt, which is roughly 95% pale malt, 4.2% wheat malt and 0.8% crystal malt. Apparently Coopers only use sugar for priming bottles, so to get the nice low FG of 1006 or below that this beer requires use a low mash temperature of 62-63 C.
Hops-wise, I got a load of POR from http://craftbrewer.com.au/ which I keep in the freezer for making this. The costs were reasonable, even taking into account postage, and they arrived quickly. Galena or Cluster are good substitutes (if you can get them), although I remember reading somewhere that any Hallertau could be used as a replacement. There's only one hop addition, at the beginning of the boil, and I go for 25-30 IBUs (apparently the dry finish and high carbonation reduces the bitterness a bit, so you may want to up this figure).
As far as yeasts go, I use dry yeast only (due to my brew days generally being last-minute affairs due to work and home commitments). Ritchies Real Ale Yeast is apparently the same stuff you get in Coopers kits (Mauri A514), so I go with that and get really good results. There's someone on ebay selling packs of four for about a fiver. I've also used Nottingham in the past which gave OK results, but I prefer the Ritchies stuff. I've never used wet yeast, so I can't give you any pointers there I'm afraid.
I always bottle this brew and prime using cane sugar. I like it nice and carbonated and so go for 3 volumes of CO2 (about 8 grams of sugar per litre).
I first brewed this for my missus who's a lager drinker (she doesn't do ale) and she absolutely loves it, but it's so good I drink it myself now - it's a perfect refreshing summer brew served nice and cold!
Hope this helps!Al.
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aghuckle
Re: coopers clone
Thanks for that,Ill have to try and get the right hops,that coopers apa settles the dust well as I walk in the door,served cold it is good, I would like to try some flavour and aroma atthe end ,what do you think i have tatt,cascade , hau,mitt made an easy ale with cacade which was really easy drinking.
Could try to get some yeast from a bottle I have ?
Could try to get some yeast from a bottle I have ?
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Wolfy
Re: coopers clone
One of the forum moderators (AndrewQLD) on the AussieHomeBrewers forum, has spent alot of time perfecting his Coopers clone.
The original recipe can be found here: http://www.aussiehomebrewer.com/forum// ... recipe=483
And the discussion found here: http://www.aussiehomebrewer.com/forum// ... hl=coopers
If you read the discussion thread from the end-back, you will find that he has updated the recipe and it does not include sugar now.
However, one of the key points to making a good Coopers clone is using their yeast (recultured from bottles, since its different to the dry kit yeast) and getting the FG right down, which is what sugar can help with.
As dral suggested, you'll also need to use POR hops to make the clone as close as possible to the original.
If you search the forums here you will also find a thread, from a month or two ago, which lots more details and some recipes for you to follow too.
The original recipe can be found here: http://www.aussiehomebrewer.com/forum// ... recipe=483
And the discussion found here: http://www.aussiehomebrewer.com/forum// ... hl=coopers
If you read the discussion thread from the end-back, you will find that he has updated the recipe and it does not include sugar now.
However, one of the key points to making a good Coopers clone is using their yeast (recultured from bottles, since its different to the dry kit yeast) and getting the FG right down, which is what sugar can help with.
As dral suggested, you'll also need to use POR hops to make the clone as close as possible to the original.
If you search the forums here you will also find a thread, from a month or two ago, which lots more details and some recipes for you to follow too.