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Beersmith for Linux

Post by Naich » Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:35 pm

I know a few people here use Linux. Beersmith is now available in native Linux form - http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2012/01/2 ... a-release/

I just had a very quick go and it seems to work fine. Not sure I'll be using it though - it looks a bit busy.

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Re: Beersmith for Linux

Post by DeadFall » Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:02 am

I've been hunting around for my old winXP disc so I could run a VM for this kind on thing. I would say this saves me the bother, but I want to try a few interesting .net projects out and don't have time at work.

I am toying with the idea of writing my own library as a way of learning how the brewing calculations work. If I did I'd write in c or c++ as I suspect there'd be very little problem in compiling for multiple platforms and I could do with polishing my c/c++ up. Then I'd write a simple front end up in something like python. I'd open source it after a while. Depends on finding that mythical beast called time though.
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Re: Beersmith for Linux

Post by themadhippy » Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:32 am

For some reason my instal of ubuntu dont like it, goes around in a loop warning about untrusted software,will try from the terminal when ithe brain cell starts to function again,until then beer engine works fine under wine,and ive just noticed brewtarget and qbrew in the software center lets see wot there all about
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Re: Beersmith for Linux

Post by stevetk189 » Fri Sep 21, 2012 12:03 pm

I've had the BeerSmith trial running on my ubuntu 10.10 box and it's good. Yep it's busy, there's a lot of stuff packed in and it appears daunting at first.

Just tried to install it, ready to purchase the unlock key, on my ubuntu 12.04 box and it's thrown up some warnings about package is of bad quality and a bunch of this stuff:

E: beersmith2: wrong-file-owner-uid-or-gid usr/lib/libwx_baseu-2.9.so 1000/1000
E: beersmith2: wrong-file-owner-uid-or-gid usr/lib/libwx_baseu-2.9.so.3 1000/1000
E: beersmith2: wrong-file-owner-uid-or-gid usr/lib/libwx_baseu_net-2.9.so 1000/1000
E: beersmith2: wrong-file-owner-uid-or-gid usr/lib/libwx_baseu_net-2.9.so.3 1000/1000

I've had a quick shufty on the beersmith forum and there's a few 12.04 user grumbling about it. The software developer is "looking into it running on a 12.04 system".

The site does state the linux version is only a beta version though so I suppose a few glitches should be expected. Bit cheeky to charge full price for it though.

I have used qBrew from the software centre, it's pretty basic stuff and there's no facility for editing extract potential etc - not that I can find anyway
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Re: Beersmith for Linux

Post by Dave S » Fri Sep 21, 2012 12:22 pm

themadhippy wrote:For some reason my instal of ubuntu dont like it, goes around in a loop warning about untrusted software,will try from the terminal when ithe brain cell starts to function again,until then beer engine works fine under wine,and ive just noticed brewtarget and qbrew in the software center lets see wot there all about
I use Brewtarget and it seems pretty good, though when volume levels are calculated to 3 decimal places I start to wonder what's the point - things do not need to be that precise - in fact I doubt that they could be given the accuracy available to most HBers.
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Re: Beersmith for Linux

Post by Naich » Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:32 pm

stevetk189 wrote:I've had the BeerSmith trial running on my ubuntu 10.10 box and it's good. Yep it's busy, there's a lot of stuff packed in and it appears daunting at first.

Just tried to install it, ready to purchase the unlock key, on my ubuntu 12.04 box and it's thrown up some warnings about package is of bad quality and a bunch of this stuff:

E: beersmith2: wrong-file-owner-uid-or-gid usr/lib/libwx_baseu-2.9.so 1000/1000
Looks like the installer is trying to install the library files as owned by you rather than root. How did you install it?

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Post by stevetk189 » Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:57 am

Naich wrote:
stevetk189 wrote:I've had the BeerSmith trial running on my ubuntu 10.10 box and it's good. Yep it's busy, there's a lot of stuff packed in and it appears daunting at first.

Just tried to install it, ready to purchase the unlock key, on my ubuntu 12.04 box and it's thrown up some warnings about package is of bad quality and a bunch of this stuff:

E: beersmith2: wrong-file-owner-uid-or-gid usr/lib/libwx_baseu-2.9.so 1000/1000
Looks like the installer is trying to install the library files as owned by you rather than root. How did you install it?
Right clicked the .deb file and chose install using software centre... I'm a newb!

That's the same way I installed it on my 10.10 box though and it worked fine.
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Re: Beersmith for Linux

Post by themadhippy » Sat Sep 22, 2012 1:27 pm

never got round to installing the previous version,however seeing this,ive just downloaded the latest version and it installs and runs fine on ubuntu 12.04,now wots that button do?
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Post by stevetk189 » Sat Sep 22, 2012 2:57 pm

themadhippy wrote:never got round to installing the previous version,however seeing this,ive just downloaded the latest version and it installs and runs fine on ubuntu 12.04,now wots that button do?
I've just realised the box I thought was running 12.04 and is throwing the warnings is actually 11.04. I got confused, 12.04 is on my Mrs. laptop.

How did you install it themadhippy?
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Post by themadhippy » Sat Sep 22, 2012 3:04 pm

How did you install it themadhippy?
just downloaded it and let the software center sort it out.
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Re: Beersmith for Linux

Post by stevetk189 » Sat Sep 22, 2012 3:05 pm

themadhippy wrote:
How did you install it themadhippy?
just downloaded it and let the software center sort it out.
Good good, same here so at least I know I'm doing that bit right.
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Re: Beersmith for Linux

Post by Tippler » Sat Sep 22, 2012 3:26 pm

I tried Beersmith but found it too complicated for my needs. Instead I use Graham Wheeler's Beer Engine, which runs fine with Ubuntu 12.04 under Wine and I can redo the recipes from his boook with it to take account of different levels of efficieny, hop alphas, length etc.
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Re: Beersmith for Linux

Post by Naich » Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:12 pm

stevetk189 wrote:
Naich wrote:
stevetk189 wrote:I've had the BeerSmith trial running on my ubuntu 10.10 box and it's good. Yep it's busy, there's a lot of stuff packed in and it appears daunting at first.

Just tried to install it, ready to purchase the unlock key, on my ubuntu 12.04 box and it's thrown up some warnings about package is of bad quality and a bunch of this stuff:

E: beersmith2: wrong-file-owner-uid-or-gid usr/lib/libwx_baseu-2.9.so 1000/1000
Looks like the installer is trying to install the library files as owned by you rather than root. How did you install it?
Right clicked the .deb file and chose install using software centre... I'm a newb!

That's the same way I installed it on my 10.10 box though and it worked fine.
I just tried it on 12.04 here and it installed fine. It said it was outside the 21 day trial period though, despite never having installed it before, so it seems a bit flaky. Maybe there's something in it that screws up 11.04? If you wanted to sort out the problems manually the first thing to do would be to check who owns the usr/lib/libwx_baseu... files. It should be root and you could chown them to root with "chown root:root usr/lib/libwx_baseu-2.9.so" and so on from a terminal.

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Re: Beersmith for Linux

Post by stevetk189 » Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:06 am

Naich wrote: I just tried it on 12.04 here and it installed fine. It said it was outside the 21 day trial period though, despite never having installed it before, so it seems a bit flaky. Maybe there's something in it that screws up 11.04? If you wanted to sort out the problems manually the first thing to do would be to check who owns the usr/lib/libwx_baseu... files. It should be root and you could chown them to root with "chown root:root usr/lib/libwx_baseu-2.9.so" and so on from a terminal.
Cheers Naich. I've had a rummage and usr/lib/libwx_baseu-2.9.so doesn't exist... Tried the chown in case I was just being blind and got No such file or directory in terminal :(
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Re: Beersmith for Linux

Post by Naich » Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:16 pm

Ah right, so that'll be installer issues then. Just to check - did the installer ask you for your password? If not then you could try installing it from the command line, explicitly ensuring you are root with the command "sudo dpkg -i BeerSmith-2.1.02.deb". If it doesn't like that then there's something wrong with the package that 11.04 doesn't like but 12.04 is OK with. Probably fixable but probably easier to just upgrade to 12.04

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