Carbonation

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Barticus

Carbonation

Post by Barticus » Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:21 pm

Can someone please explain carbonation and how long it should take and fizz expectation compared to a pub pint or supermarket can.

Last week I bottled some TC with 1 tsp of sugar and a coopers lager with 2 coopers lager drops.

While I know a week is not long enough to get the taste right, should it be long enough to carbonate it.

I opened one of each today to get a feel for the process and the difference between stages and they were both pretty flat.

Is it too soon for carbonation or are my expectations of fizz way out?

Matt12398

Re: Carbonation

Post by Matt12398 » Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:13 pm

I was of the understanding that you leave them for a week in the warm for secondary fermentation to take place and then somewhere cool for at least a couple further weeks for the CO2 generated by secondary fermentation to absorb into the beer. This works better at cooler temperatures.

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Re: Carbonation

Post by oldbloke » Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:32 pm

A week somewhere about 20, if it's much lower than that it's going to take at least 2 weeks. It's a ferment, it needs fermenting temperatures.
Then somewhere well cool for a good while for the gas to be asborbed into the liquid, or it just escapes when you take the cap off.
What sort of caps? My first brew I used those plassy reseal caps, almost no carbonation, they just didn't seal well enough. Screwtops need to be properly tight.

Barticus

Carbonation

Post by Barticus » Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:19 pm

Cheers fellas.

The caps are coopers plastic caps but neither of these has had any time in the cold so that hopefully explains it.

edonald774

Re: Carbonation

Post by edonald774 » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:01 pm

On my first brew I used the coopers screw caps and discovered a few of them worked loose a couple of times.
Worth keeping an eye on them.

Barticus

Re: Carbonation

Post by Barticus » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:50 pm

Checked the lagers today and the plastic bottles were rock solid so have now been transferred to the chiller at around 12c.

The Turbo Cider. Turns out the squash I added to it after fermentation had nastys in which probably killed all the yeasties.

Now on the look out for a soda stream which I assume will resolve the lack of fizziness.

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Re: Carbonation

Post by Pinto » Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:48 pm

Barticus wrote:Checked the lagers today and the plastic bottles were rock solid so have now been transferred to the chiller at around 12c.

The Turbo Cider. Turns out the squash I added to it after fermentation had nastys in which probably killed all the yeasties.

Now on the look out for a soda stream which I assume will resolve the lack of fizziness.
Simpler suggestion for you B - buy a few litres of cheap appleade and mix with the cider when you serve it - will add a little bit of sweetness and a lot of fizz - and at 40p odd a bottle, damn sight cheaper than a soda stream

Just remember to boil up the cordial next time ;)
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Carbonation

Post by Barticus » Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:49 am

Pinto wrote:
Barticus wrote:Checked the lagers today and the plastic bottles were rock solid so have now been transferred to the chiller at around 12c.

The Turbo Cider. Turns out the squash I added to it after fermentation had nastys in which probably killed all the yeasties.

Now on the look out for a soda stream which I assume will resolve the lack of fizziness.
Simpler suggestion for you B - buy a few litres of cheap appleade and mix with the cider when you serve it - will add a little bit of sweetness and a lot of fizz - and at 40p odd a bottle, damn sight cheaper than a soda stream

Just remember to boil up the cordial next time ;)
Excellent, I'll give that a go.

The cider is for the wifey so it's imperative she is kept happy whilst my hobby takes over our kitchen, cupboard space, fridge and eBay account. :lol:

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