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Re: Leaky Cooper

Post by thunderbird13 » Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:24 pm

HI

Thanks for the replies really useful - looks like I have over cut it #-o

Took a few photos last night not sure how much help they are . BTW the orange thing is a silicone baking tray I got from a pound shop ! :D

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I' should get some measurements tonight

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Re: Leaky Cooper

Post by barneey » Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:25 pm

#-o
I would forget about trying JB weld or any other sealant and concentrate on either the washer approach or buying two cheap kettle element.

A pain but should get you over the problem.
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Re: Leaky Cooper

Post by Highlander » Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:03 pm

I'll swap you a asda budget element(didn't know they were a different size) for a backer one :wink:
and a tenner?

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Re: Leaky Cooper

Post by thunderbird13 » Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:45 pm

barneey wrote:#-o
I would forget about trying JB weld or any other sealant and concentrate on either the washer approach or buying two cheap kettle element.

A pain but should get you over the problem.
I agree i think the washer approach is best

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Re: Leaky Cooper

Post by thunderbird13 » Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:48 pm

Deller12 wrote:[
If you struggle to find washers that size i might be able to laser cut you a couple ;) how much clearence do you have from the bottom of your pot ? Barneey what gauge do you think 1.5mm-2.00mm ?

Lee
Thanks for the offer i have about a 4 cm clearance from the bottom of the pot and the steel is 1 mm thick and it looks like the whole should be 40 mm as I have about a 2 mm clearance around it currently

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Re: Leaky Cooper

Post by thunderbird13 » Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:51 pm

Highlander wrote:I'll swap you a asda budget element(didn't know they were a different size) for a backer one :wink:
and a tenner?
Thanks I 'll see what I can do first with what Ive got

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Re: Leaky Cooper

Post by thunderbird13 » Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:52 pm

anyone want to buy a 45 mm qmax cutter :D :D

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Re: Leaky Cooper

Post by Deller12 » Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:24 pm

So you need a washer with a 40mm inside diameter and a od 44mm ?

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Re: Leaky Cooper

Post by barneey » Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:38 pm

With an od of 44mm and a qmax hole cutter of 45mm = #-o
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Re: Leaky Cooper

Post by Deller12 » Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:49 pm

barneey wrote:With an od of 44mm and a qmax hole cutter of 45mm = #-o
Sorry :oops: long day and I had my head stuck in a beer cooler for the last two hours. So were looking at 48-50mm od I guess

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Re: Leaky Cooper

Post by barneey » Thu Jul 05, 2012 10:12 am

As I more than likely have the same elements as thunderbird, mine were also purchase from H&G, I`ve taken one out of my boiler to photograph and provide future reference for the forums. + also enabled me to clean the thing :)

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Thread diameter 39.42, OD of body 47.38, thread length no wahers 10mm.

So in theory 8mm diameter difference between the two, therefore if you have cut a 45mm hole + 8mm = 53mm od washer required in say 1.5mm or 1mm stainless, internal diameter 40mm.

Only my recommendation, should work?
Hair of the dog, bacon, butty.
Hops, cider pips & hello.

Name the Movie + song :)

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Re: Leaky Cooper

Post by Deller12 » Thu Jul 05, 2012 10:24 am

Nice One Barneey well done =D> Perhaps one of the moderators could make this a sticky,as question on elements seems to come up quite oftern

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Re: Leaky Cooper

Post by barneey » Thu Jul 05, 2012 10:33 am

Just one other thing that maybe worth a mention.

Ive always cut my element holes at 40mm, I believe however some members do cut their holes a 38mm (1 1/2") and actually screw the element in for an even tighter fit. ie the depth of the screw thread enables this to be done.
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Hops, cider pips & hello.

Name the Movie + song :)

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Re: Leaky Cooper

Post by thunderbird13 » Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:14 am

I saw these on ebay looks like they might do the job - even though they look like their for an engine them should be safe enough shouldnt they ?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... fe=sidebar

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Re: Leaky Cooper

Post by barneey » Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:38 am

They are 48mm od so it will only give you 1.5mm of meat on either side of your hole.

My advice would be to take Deller up on his offer of making some for you?
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Hops, cider pips & hello.

Name the Movie + song :)

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